[theora] NHW Project - some update

[Raphael Canut]

Hello Dave,

Thank you very much again to believe in the NHW Project and spend some of
your precious time in the help of the project! This is much appreciated!

I know it will be very very difficult, and even a Theora forum member
answered me few months ago that it is totally impossible that a company
uses my codec in their mobile phones, and I tend to share that opinion.

For now, and it's great, their is a study to replace MotionJPEG with the
NHW Project for low power processors -that don't have enough power for
MotionJPEG-.

But again Dave, if you would have any advice, if you could indicate me a
person/company to contact but I know it's extremely difficult, it would be
so much exceptional!

Many thanks again for your consideration Sir!
Best regards,
Raphael

2018-07-10 22:25 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <davefilms.us at gmail.com>:

> You're welcome!
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 4:50 AM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Dave,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your help!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Raphael
>>
>> 2018-07-10 9:39 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <davefilms.us at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Let me do some looking.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 4:55 PM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Dave!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for your answer!
>>>>
>>>> You're right.I have thought that the new next-generation codecs like
>>>> JVET (MPEG) VVC, AOM AV1, XVC will be too computational-intensive for
>>>> mobile phones.So the de facto codecs for mobiles devices are H.264 and
>>>> HEVC, I thought that my codec that is royalty-free and a lot faster could
>>>> move the lines, but you're right Apple is "attached" to MPEG and Google and
>>>> the others are "attached" to AOM.
>>>>
>>>> > Look to Asia
>>>>
>>>> I am always very attracted by new opportunities for my NHW Project! But
>>>> don't you think there will be a problem of compatibility? For example a
>>>> brand wants to use the NHW Project in its new mobile phone, but what will
>>>> happen if the NHW Project is not supported by web browsers?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I am very interested to look to Asia, would you have some
>>>> advice?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Raphael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2018-07-09 23:33 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <davefilms.us at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> I think Apple is somehow "attached" to the MPEG group. They control
>>>>> the "pools" too. Your codec sounds great. Google could -- if they wanted to
>>>>> -- use it but they have Web^M and webP. Look to Asia. Asus has just
>>>>> launched a new phone. ??
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 3:14 PM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have advanced on the NHW Project this past month, but I have
>>>>>> definitely validated its characteristics and this new version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The NHW Codec preserves or enhances image neatness and sharpness,
>>>>>> which translates that on good quality images the NHW Codec is globally
>>>>>> better than HEVC, and on degraded (with blur, artifacts) images it is worse
>>>>>> than HEVC because it lacks of precision. I have made tests on 100 images
>>>>>> from the Internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The NHW Project still lacks very high compression, and I think now I
>>>>>> will inspire from HEVC, that is to say, I would like to strongly remove
>>>>>> details and preserve the contours, edges. It is not that easy to code, and
>>>>>> again any help would be very very welcome! Again if you can provide any
>>>>>> help to the NHW Project, do not hesitate to show up, would be so much
>>>>>> appreciated!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The NHW codec has a high speed, which makes it a good candidate for
>>>>>> mobile, embedded devices.There are currently some exploration for a
>>>>>> MotionJPEG replacement on low power processor (dual-core 240MHz Xtensa LX6)
>>>>>> where MotionJPEG appears to be too heavyweight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the recent updates, I think the NHW Project is still patent-free
>>>>>> and royalty-free. And just the fact that it is royalty-free, should be
>>>>>> worth the try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So with this new version, I hope the NHW Project could attract a
>>>>>> company that would like to sponsorize the project (to adapt the codec to
>>>>>> any size of image for example).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very quickly to finish, I have seen that on the Theora mailing list
>>>>>> there are employees from big companies.This can be indiscreet and very
>>>>>> impolite, but for example there are 2 employees from Apple who are on the
>>>>>> Theora channel mailing list... Does Apple can be interested in such a codec
>>>>>> as the NHW Project? If not, what does it lack to be of interest? Would you
>>>>>> have some advice?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks again!
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Raphael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
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