[theora] recommendations for web video bit rates

Basil Mohamed Gohar abu_hurayrah at hidayahonline.org
Sat Mar 13 16:13:01 PST 2010

On 03/13/2010 04:11 PM, Christopher Blizzard wrote:
> Hey, everyone.  I'm sure this thread will generate some email!
> Some people are working on a super-easy to use converter for people to 
> be able to convert videos to Theora for the upcoming Get Video on 
> Wikipedia push:
> http://videoonwikipedia.org/
> (Note that this isn't being pushed yet, and is pre-launch quality!)
> For the converter one thing we'd like to be able to provide is a set of 
> profiles for quality, bitrates and sizes that people can use to generate 
> Theora videos.  (Michael Dale wants this for Firefogg, too.)
> The number of bits that you need to allocate depends highly on the 
> content - everyone here knows that - but we can come up with a rough set 
> of guidelines that give a rough estimate for low/medium/high for a given 
> size.  (Is it a linear scale, depending on width * height?)
> I think that people have done this before, but just looking for 
> experience and guidance.
> --Chris
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The only foray into streaming/online video I've done is at the following


Those vids are 640x480x15fps, and their rate is actually vbr based on
the quality 10 setting.  But the videos are also heavily post-processed
and they didn't have much change either.

The rate for the Theora stream in each file ranges from 270 - 537kbps,
and the audio for each is around 70 kbps (mono).

So far I have not received any complaints from people visiting the
website, so I must presume they generally are not experiencing buffering

You might also consider looking at the "profiles" that ffmpeg2theora
supports.  I'm not sure how rigorously those presets were chosen, but
it's something to start with.

      Basil Mohamed Gohar
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