[theora] Indexing Ogg files for faster seeking

Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiffer1 at gmail.com
Sun Oct 11 01:50:49 PDT 2009

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Chris Pearce <chris at pearce.org.nz> wrote:
> On 9/22/2009 11:10 PM, j at v2v.cc wrote:
>> would this also work for ogg streams with more than one video, not that
>> this is common, but possible in theory. would in those cases an index
>> not need to reference the track it is indexing?
> Currently my index/indexer merges keyframe data from all streams. So if
> you had multiple video streams, and you wanted to seek to time t, the
> index would tell you the offset of the last page which lies before
> *every* streams' last keyframe before t.
> If you're only playing one of the video streams, then you may be seeking
> back more than you need to.
> We discussed this on #theora yesterday, and most people seemed to favour
> indexing stream individually, or having mulitple indexes which denote
> what stream(s) they index.
> A sensible use case is for subtitles. A subtitle track could be embedded
> with its pages spread much further apart than the keyframes for a video
> track. With the streams indexed separately, you could request the pages
> with the subtitles with a separate request/read if they're too far away
> from the A/V pages.

Just while I'm following up on the Ogg Index threads ... Ogg Kate
actually has a mechanism for repeating subtitle packets in Ogg when
they are too far apart. This would stop large back seek operations
needing to take place just for subtitles.


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