[theora] Does XiphQT plugin work in Safari?

[Michael Dale]

Thanks for the info. I also meet Eric Carlson at OVA. He was helpful 
about xiph qt support and hopeful for the future of html5. I just meant 
I should probably file the bug with webKit / apple rather than complain 
on the theora list ;)

Yea I can get the ogg theora video to "work" in safari with the xiph qt 
component installed. But what I can't presently do is reliably detect if 
the component is installed. Any help on this would be greatly 
appreciated. Otherwise we have to send the java applet as seen on 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:B-36_bomber.ogg
(or perhaps it works for you and something has already been updated? )

yes we presently have a self-signed applet system the uses the cortado 
on xiph.org (if a copy of cortado is not available on the same server 
the media is coming from)

peace,
--michael

Werner Randelshofer wrote:
>
> On 18.07.2009, at 19:13, Christopher Blizzard wrote:
>> If you try it without the type="video/ogg" does it work?  If so I 
>> _think_ this is a known bad interaction between the mime type 
>> mappings of the XiphQT plugin and how WebKit gets its mappings for 
>> video support.  I believe that it's fixed by hard coding some mime 
>> types in the WebKit nightlies which means it will likely be fixed in 
>> a later Safari release.
>
> That's it. When i remove the type attribute, it works fine in Safari.
>
> WebKit nightly works fine with and without the type attribute - just 
> like Firefox. Awesome. 8)
>
>
>
> On 18.07.2009, at 19:35, Michael Dale wrote:
>> Which means we presently have no way to predictably send ogg-theora 
>> content to safari users.
>>
>> Which will result in recommending Firefox to Safari users for the 
>> time being:
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-July/052993.html
>
> This is a very informative recommendation.
>
> Unfortunately, the proposed soft link does not appear in Safari when I 
> open the testpage without
> having XiphQT installed. The video just does not play. :(
>
> http://metavid.org/wiki/File:FolgersCoffe_512kb.1496.ogv
>
> The soft link works fine with IE though.
>
> And - of course - with XipQT installed, the video works perfectly fine 
> in Safari.
>
>
> On a sidenote, I wonder why the Cortado applet is signed on the sample 
> page?
> If it wasn't signed, the security dialog would not appear when the 
> applet starts.
> In my opinion, this would greatly improve the user experience.
>
>
>
> Thank you very much,
> Werner