[theora] Does XiphQT plugin work in Safari?

Michael Dale mdale at wikimedia.org
Tue Jul 21 11:21:44 PDT 2009

Thanks for the info. I also meet Eric Carlson at OVA. He was helpful 
about xiph qt support and hopeful for the future of html5. I just meant 
I should probably file the bug with webKit / apple rather than complain 
on the theora list ;)

Yea I can get the ogg theora video to "work" in safari with the xiph qt 
component installed. But what I can't presently do is reliably detect if 
the component is installed. Any help on this would be greatly 
appreciated. Otherwise we have to send the java applet as seen on 
(or perhaps it works for you and something has already been updated? )

yes we presently have a self-signed applet system the uses the cortado 
on xiph.org (if a copy of cortado is not available on the same server 
the media is coming from)


Werner Randelshofer wrote:
> On 18.07.2009, at 19:13, Christopher Blizzard wrote:
>> If you try it without the type="video/ogg" does it work?  If so I 
>> _think_ this is a known bad interaction between the mime type 
>> mappings of the XiphQT plugin and how WebKit gets its mappings for 
>> video support.  I believe that it's fixed by hard coding some mime 
>> types in the WebKit nightlies which means it will likely be fixed in 
>> a later Safari release.
> That's it. When i remove the type attribute, it works fine in Safari.
> WebKit nightly works fine with and without the type attribute - just 
> like Firefox. Awesome. 8)
> On 18.07.2009, at 19:35, Michael Dale wrote:
>> Which means we presently have no way to predictably send ogg-theora 
>> content to safari users.
>> Which will result in recommending Firefox to Safari users for the 
>> time being:
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-July/052993.html
> This is a very informative recommendation.
> Unfortunately, the proposed soft link does not appear in Safari when I 
> open the testpage without
> having XiphQT installed. The video just does not play. :(
> http://metavid.org/wiki/File:FolgersCoffe_512kb.1496.ogv
> The soft link works fine with IE though.
> And - of course - with XipQT installed, the video works perfectly fine 
> in Safari.
> On a sidenote, I wonder why the Cortado applet is signed on the sample 
> page?
> If it wasn't signed, the security dialog would not appear when the 
> applet starts.
> In my opinion, this would greatly improve the user experience.
> Thank you very much,
> Werner

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