[theora] Re: [dyne:bolic] Concerning the (correct) use of Theora in FreeJ

xiphmont at xiph.org xiphmont at xiph.org
Wed Jan 23 19:12:39 PST 2008

On Jan 23, 2008 12:17 AM, Patrick Aljord <patcito at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 23, 2008 5:34 AM, Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves <justivo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey, I merely (mis-)quoted Monty's demo paper on thusnelda.  Gotta
> > tell the people the good news.
> >  It turns out it is realistic to say Theora will compete with H.264.
> >
> I remember too that paper from Monty saying that thusnelda will
> achieve equal or superior quality with h.264 and how h.264 is based on
> an old format too (MPEG) just like theora on vp3.
> It would great, I mean interesting, to have an 'official'
> clarification on this. Monty? :)

I said, roughly, "Theora has room to close with h.264 and remain
competetive for several years."   I also said that h264 is, in most
ways, still solidly in the same general family of codecs as
mpeg2/vp3/etc, although it is a more refined, more recent generation.
It is fundamentally more advanced than, say, vp3 but also an older
generation than, say, Dirac.  Neither Theora nor h.264 have yet
reached their practical efficiency limits, and we should expect
continuing improvement from both for several more years.


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