[theora-dev] It's quiet. TOO quiet.

[Aaron Krill]

I would think when theora is in RC stage?

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 07:18, Thomas Tomiczek wrote:
> So, when will there be support for playing Theora files in Media Player?
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> Regards
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> Thomas Tomiczek
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> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: Dan Miller [mailto:owner-theora-dev at xiph.org] On Behalf Of
> Dan Miller
> 	Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:11 PM
> 	To: theora-dev at xiph.org
> 	Subject: RE: [theora-dev] It's quiet. TOO quiet.
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> 	Theora is alive and well.  However your points are valid;
> there's been very little update on the www.theora.org page, or relevant
> info at xiph.org.
>
> 	One decision I am aware of that should have been broadcast but
> hasn't been yet for some reason, is that Alpha 2 is going to be merged
> into the initial Beta release, still scheduled for late March.  The
> feeling was that there simply weren't enough important changes to
> provide another release.
>
> 	I know Monty is working hard on the changes necessary to get
> libogg+theora to work nicely (perhaps even really well).  I am working
> on the bitstream specification for the video compression stream
> ('Theora' proper, ie the video codec).  Until this work is done, we feel
> there is little to be gained by encouraging large-scale adoption of what
> is necessarily a work in progress.
>
> 	-dan
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> 		-----Original Message-----
> 		From: emaillist+ot at dogphilosophy.net
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> 		Sent: Mon 1/27/2003 9:34 PM
> 		To: theora-dev at xiph.org
> 		Cc:
> 		Subject: [theora-dev] It's quiet. TOO quiet.
>
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>
> 		Whatever became of Ogg Theora?
>
> 		There seems to be still almost no news from Xiph or its
> 		developers regarding Ogg Theora.  None at all since
> Mid-December,
> 		when the release of Alpha 2 was pushed back to a month
> ago...
>
> 		No news on plans for the second Alpha?  No news of
> development
> 		"roadmaps"?  No news on current developments or
> challenges that
> 		are stalling development?  No CVS updates related to
> Theora
> 		since the Alpha 1 release?
>
> 		I get the impression that Ogg Theora's been a bit of a
> "well, maybe,
> 		if we get time" sort of project for Xiph.  Even the
> instructions on
> 		the theora.org website for obtaining the current code
> haven't
> 		been updated since before the Alpha 1 release (still
> showing that
> 		one needs to check out the "vp32" module).
>
> 		Even since its beginning, there has been almost no
> official news
> 		from Xiph on Theora.  Alpha 1 was released without even
> a mention
> 		on the Theora mailing lists that it was coming (or even
> that it'd
> 		been released after the fact).  Theora hasn't even been
> mentioned in
> 		the last 3 issues of Ogg Traffic.
>
> 		I apologize if this is coming across as flamebait - it's
> not supposed to.
> 		In fairness, I recognize the Emmett Plant posted a bit
> of information to
> 		the list mid-last-month, and Monty's been posting here
> occasionally about
> 		The Great Mimetype Debate(tm), so Theora's obviously not
> TOTALLY forgotten.
> 		I also know that some technical issues have made Monty's
> hard work at getting
> 		libogg prepped for Theora have made things
> difficult...but that's the
> 		whole extent of the available information that I can
> find on the subject
> 		of Ogg Theora.
>
> 		So - any apparent "flamebaititude" (is that even a real
> word?) in here is just
> 		the product of frustration from watching what seems like
> a very promising
> 		project (not to mention timely, what with the first
> standalone 'video file'
> 		players starting to come out...and only support "DivX"
> [though the player
> 		in question DOES support Ogg Vorbis for sound-only
> playback]) languish while I
> 		wait for it to reach a point where I can contribute
> something to it myself.
>
> 		Some official news once in a while would be a great
> relief to me, and I
> 		imagine as well to any potential developers, testers,
> and documenters who
> 		are still watching the list and waiting for a genuinely
> free alternative to
> 		"DivX".
>
> 		Please?
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