[theora-dev] It's quiet. TOO quiet.
Thomas Tomiczek
t.tomiczek at thona-consulting.com
Tue Jan 28 07:18:36 PST 2003
So, when will there be support for playing Theora files in Media Player?
Regards
Thomas Tomiczek
THONA Consulting Ltd.
(Microsoft MVP C#/.NET)
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Miller [mailto:owner-theora-dev at xiph.org] On Behalf Of
Dan Miller
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:11 PM
To: theora-dev at xiph.org
Subject: RE: [theora-dev] It's quiet. TOO quiet.
Theora is alive and well. However your points are valid;
there's been very little update on the www.theora.org page, or relevant
info at xiph.org.
One decision I am aware of that should have been broadcast but
hasn't been yet for some reason, is that Alpha 2 is going to be merged
into the initial Beta release, still scheduled for late March. The
feeling was that there simply weren't enough important changes to
provide another release.
I know Monty is working hard on the changes necessary to get
libogg+theora to work nicely (perhaps even really well). I am working
on the bitstream specification for the video compression stream
('Theora' proper, ie the video codec). Until this work is done, we feel
there is little to be gained by encouraging large-scale adoption of what
is necessarily a work in progress.
-dan
-----Original Message-----
From: emaillist+ot at dogphilosophy.net
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Sent: Mon 1/27/2003 9:34 PM
To: theora-dev at xiph.org
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Subject: [theora-dev] It's quiet. TOO quiet.
Whatever became of Ogg Theora?
There seems to be still almost no news from Xiph or its
developers regarding Ogg Theora. None at all since
Mid-December,
when the release of Alpha 2 was pushed back to a month
ago...
No news on plans for the second Alpha? No news of
development
"roadmaps"? No news on current developments or
challenges that
are stalling development? No CVS updates related to
Theora
since the Alpha 1 release?
I get the impression that Ogg Theora's been a bit of a
"well, maybe,
if we get time" sort of project for Xiph. Even the
instructions on
the theora.org website for obtaining the current code
haven't
been updated since before the Alpha 1 release (still
showing that
one needs to check out the "vp32" module).
Even since its beginning, there has been almost no
official news
from Xiph on Theora. Alpha 1 was released without even
a mention
on the Theora mailing lists that it was coming (or even
that it'd
been released after the fact). Theora hasn't even been
mentioned in
the last 3 issues of Ogg Traffic.
I apologize if this is coming across as flamebait - it's
not supposed to.
In fairness, I recognize the Emmett Plant posted a bit
of information to
the list mid-last-month, and Monty's been posting here
occasionally about
The Great Mimetype Debate(tm), so Theora's obviously not
TOTALLY forgotten.
I also know that some technical issues have made Monty's
hard work at getting
libogg prepped for Theora have made things
difficult...but that's the
whole extent of the available information that I can
find on the subject
of Ogg Theora.
So - any apparent "flamebaititude" (is that even a real
word?) in here is just
the product of frustration from watching what seems like
a very promising
project (not to mention timely, what with the first
standalone 'video file'
players starting to come out...and only support "DivX"
[though the player
in question DOES support Ogg Vorbis for sound-only
playback]) languish while I
wait for it to reach a point where I can contribute
something to it myself.
Some official news once in a while would be a great
relief to me, and I
imagine as well to any potential developers, testers,
and documenters who
are still watching the list and waiting for a genuinely
free alternative to
"DivX".
Please?
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