[Speex-dev] How to get podcasters to adopt Speex?

George Ou george_ou at lanarchitect.net
Wed Oct 4 00:09:41 PDT 2006

Ok here is something I couldn't see on the description page.  We need to
convert to 8 bit audio right?  I'm assuming narrow band is 8 KHz 8 bit.
Wide band is 16 KHz 8 bit.  UW band is 32 KHz 8 bit audio?


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Grandgent [mailto:tgrand at canvaslink.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:42 AM
To: Bertie Coopersmith; George Ou
Cc: speex-dev at xiph.org
Subject: Re: [Speex-dev] How to get podcasters to adopt Speex?

Please consider using 16-bit 16kHz (wideband) instead.  It's a huge increase
in audio quality and the bitrate is still very low, especially if you take
advantage of Speex features such as VBR.

8kHz seems totally inappropriate to me for desktop streaming audio, let
alone 8-bit samples.  Or perhaps your recording equipment is an original
Sound Blaster from 1989?  (Even that could record at 12kHz.)

People often tell me how amazed they are with the audio quality of my VoIP
software based on Speex, compared to other VoIP software they've used.  What
amazes me is how low most people's standards are when it comes to sampling
rates.  I don't think 16kHz is that much to ask.  And yes, I'm talking about
SPEECH and not audio in general.

Of course, sometimes there are legitimate reasons to use 8kHz.  I'm just
saying, try to make sure the sacrifice in quality is not in vain.


Bertie Coopersmith <bertie at coopersmith.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> If its just speech that you're after, why not narrowband (8kHZ) speex. 
> I have found that to be perfectly adequate at about a seven'th of the 
> file size of a typical (music quality) MP3.
> The other good thing is that neither server nor client needs to bother 
> with streaming software or streaming protocol - http will do. I need 
> this because my web host does not allow user-supplied server software on
its free web pages.
> I just upload my .spx files (mono,8-bit samples, 8000 samples/sec, 
> 8KHz). which may have originated from various sources: Live recording,
radio, TV, or Web.
> My listening audience consists of family and friends, small in number 
> but spread over 4 continents. At the crudest level they can do a 
> binary download and convert to .wav with speexdec (speexdec.exe in the 
> case of Windows). However, they can also play direct to a unix/linux 
> client by means of curl url | speexdec - where the url string is 
> http...spx . In the case of Windows XP this becomes curl.exe url | 
> speexdec.exe -
> I've elaborated this into a .cmd script which obviates the need to 
> enter a long url plus filename and also, it displays a companion .txt 
> file while playing the .spx:-
> @echo off
> rem   Play a speex (.spx) file on 
> rem   Bertie's website. If there is a companion .txt
> rem   file, display it while playing the .spx.
> cd c:\...\wbin
> rem  In this directory you keep, amongst other things,  
> rem   the win32 executables known as Unix utilities.
> rem   In particular this script depends on curl.exe,
> rem   speexdec.exe, sed.exe, fgrep.exe, cat.exe,
> rem   echo.exe, tr.exe and nl.exe.
> rem  delete scratch files left over from a previous run:- del /q spxt* 
> sndt*  txtt*
> set url=http://www.coopersmith.demon.co.uk
> echo Speex audio files on %url%:
> echo -----------------------------
> rem remove the html tags
> curl -s %url% | sed -e "s+</A>++" -e "s/^.*>//" > spxt2
> fgrep -c .spx spxt2 > nul || goto nospx echo ---------- Speex files 
> ------------------- fgrep .spx spxt2 | nl echo 
> ------------------------------------------
> set /p num=Enter the number of the one to play and press SEND:
> echo.
> fgrep .spx spxt2 | sed -n %num%p > spxt3 echo.exe  -n "curl -f %url%/" 
> > sndtout1 cat sndtout1 spxt3 >sndtout.cmd sed  -e s/-f/-fs/ -e 
> s/\.spx/.txt/  sndtout.cmd > txttout.cmd
> txttout | more
> pause
> sndtout | speexdec -
> exit
> :nospx
> echo No .spx files found on %url%
> pause
> This works well on both dial-up and broadband. 
> However, its not gui. I have found that with Foobar2000 on Windows XP 
> one can open a url to one of the .spx files on my website and play it. 
> One can even pause and play from a different position in the file. 
> This cannot be done with the curl command file.
> I tried doing the same with illiminable's Ogg DirectShow filter
> but without success.   
> Bertie Coopersmith
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