[paranoia] Re: Unable to extract some tracks

[Monty]

On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 07:02:07PM +0000, David Crookes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > Is this CD nearly 80 minutes? If not, this could be either an 
> > 'extended' CD (with a data session at the end) confusing the cdrom 
> > drive/paranoia... or maybe one of the new copy protection schemes 
> > rearing its ugly head. 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 53 minutes or so. I think the latter is the explanation. The disk is Natalie 
> Imbruglia "White Lilie's Island", UK. I noticed on the back:
> 
> "(c) 2001 Cactus Data Shield 200 by Courtesy Of Midbar Tech LTD, Tel-Aviv, 
> Israel."
> 
> Sniffing around I found:
> 
> http://uk.eurorights.org/issues/cd/bad/
> http://uk.eurorights.org/issues/cd/docs/natimb.shtml
> 
> Musically it plays fine on all CD players & my CDROM drive.
> 
> On my SCSI, DVD-ROM, I only get tracks 1-5 recognised by cdparanoia. 
> cdda2wav does really really badly, getting only track 1.
> 

Interesting.  This implies that Cactus Shield includes a TOC fudging,
something I didn't know about.  When playing as music, most cd players
/ CDROM drives ignore the TOC and just use the subchannel to bisect
to the beginning of a track.

Interestingly enough, cdrdao may be able to read the disk; it uses
Paranoia, but also has code to scan the subchannel for track
boundaries.

Monty

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