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Viswanath Puttagunta viswanath.puttagunta at linaro.org
Fri May 8 12:03:52 PDT 2015


Hello Jean-Marc,

Yep, that was it.. with your patch, test_unit_mdct passes for all nfft.

So, what you do you suggest the next step here is?

Regards,
Vish


On 8 May 2015 at 12:30, Jean-Marc Valin <jmvalin at jmvalin.ca> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can you apply this change to the MDCT test and run it again. See if more
> (all) sizes pass. Given the results, I strongly suspect an overflow.
>
>         Jean-Marc
>
> On 08/05/15 01:21 PM, Viswanath Puttagunta wrote:
>> Hello Jean-Marc,
>>
>> Below are the results that show test_unit_dft passes, but
>> test_unit_mdct fails (only for nfft=480, 960, 1920)
>> Note: Tested on BeagleboneBlack(Cortex-A8) fixed point on branch [1]
>>
>> ./test_unit_dft
>> nfft=32 inverse=0,snr = 88.394372
>> nfft=32 inverse=1,snr = 93.896470
>> nfft=128 inverse=0,snr = 89.185895
>> nfft=128 inverse=1,snr = 93.537021
>> nfft=256 inverse=0,snr = 88.353151
>> nfft=256 inverse=1,snr = 90.826012
>> nfft=36 inverse=0,snr = 87.883324
>> nfft=36 inverse=1,snr = 88.161852
>> nfft=50 inverse=0,snr = 84.841953
>> nfft=50 inverse=1,snr = 86.312280
>> nfft=60 inverse=0,snr = 142.086642
>> nfft=60 inverse=1,snr = 140.223589
>> nfft=120 inverse=0,snr = 139.717566
>> nfft=120 inverse=1,snr = 135.677978
>> nfft=240 inverse=0,snr = 137.783374
>> nfft=240 inverse=1,snr = 131.742062
>> nfft=480 inverse=0,snr = 137.329389
>> nfft=480 inverse=1,snr = 125.394139
>>
>>
>> Testing test_unit_mdct
>>
>> nfft=32 inverse=0,snr = 85.342660
>> nfft=32 inverse=1,snr = 96.283780
>> nfft=256 inverse=0,snr = 86.729952
>> nfft=256 inverse=1,snr = 87.326203
>> nfft=512 inverse=0,snr = 82.575740
>> nfft=512 inverse=1,snr = 87.088448
>> nfft=1024 inverse=0,snr = 84.944481
>> nfft=1024 inverse=1,snr = 86.939423
>> nfft=2048 inverse=0,snr = 84.754290
>> nfft=2048 inverse=1,snr = 86.859531
>> nfft=36 inverse=0,snr = 84.423668
>> nfft=36 inverse=1,snr = 86.638850
>> nfft=40 inverse=0,snr = 83.808312
>> nfft=40 inverse=1,snr = 87.403083
>> nfft=60 inverse=0,snr = 84.983050
>> nfft=60 inverse=1,snr = 88.736219
>> nfft=120 inverse=0,snr = 82.342631
>> nfft=120 inverse=1,snr = 84.941462
>> nfft=240 inverse=0,snr = 88.011018
>> nfft=240 inverse=1,snr = 88.410825
>>
>> nfft=480 inverse=0,snr = 9.016824
>> ** poor snr: 9.016824 **
>>
>> nfft=480 inverse=1,snr = 87.773827
>>
>> nfft=960 inverse=0,snr = 11.813777
>> ** poor snr: 11.813777 **
>>
>> nfft=960 inverse=1,snr = 88.283572
>>
>> nfft=1920 inverse=0,snr = 7.652986
>> ** poor snr: 7.652986 **
>>
>> nfft=1920 inverse=1,snr = 87.762925
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vish
>>
>> [1]: https://git.linaro.org/people/viswanath.puttagunta/opus.git/shortlog/refs/heads/rfcv2_fft_fixed_exp
>>
>>
>> On 8 May 2015 at 12:06, Jean-Marc Valin <jmvalin at jmvalin.ca> wrote:
>>> Is the actual output of the test posted somewhere? One thing I would
>>> suspect is that the test might use values that trigger overflows not
>>> generally triggered with audio.
>>>
>>>         Jean-Marc
>>>
>>> On 08/05/15 11:08 AM, Viswanath Puttagunta wrote:
>>>> Hello Timothy,
>>>>
>>>> Just FYI, Phil at ARM is still looking into why mdct is failing.. will
>>>> keep you posted. In the mean time, do you want me to disable NE10 for
>>>> mdct_forward and re-submit the patchset so we may make progress?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Vish
>>>>
>>>> On 30 April 2015 at 09:33, Viswanath Puttagunta
>>>> <viswanath.puttagunta at linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 April 2015 at 17:22, Timothy B. Terriberry <tterribe at xiph.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Viswanath Puttagunta wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This patch series is follow up on work I posted on [1].
>>>>>>> In addition to what was posted on [1], this patch series mainly
>>>>>>> integrates Fixed point FFT implementations in NE10 library into opus.
>>>>>>> You can view my opus wip code at [2].
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, and I apologize for being slow here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     - This was surprising to me because test_unit_dft passes for all
>>>>>>>       nfft including 60, 120, 240, 480. May be there are some data
>>>>>>>       corner cases that need further investigation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that seems concerning. I'd like to at least understand the cause of the failures. "Audio is clearly audible" is not a very strong test for encoder quality regressions, but in the worst case we could just disable NE10 for mdct_forward.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, agree we need to root cause this.. I only mentioned audio is
>>>>> audible clearly to point out that NE10 fft is not completely messed
>>>>> up, but does have some corner cases where it is failing. ARM folks are
>>>>> actively looking into this issue, and expecting some resolution next
>>>>> week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, this NE10 fixed fft issue only impacts patches
>>>>> armv7,armv8: Optimize fixed point fft using NE10 library
>>>>> armv7,armv8: Extend fixed fft NE10 optimizations to mdct
>>>>>
>>>>> In the mean time, do you want me (as you suggested) disable NE10 fixed
>>>>> fft for mdct_forward? That way when it gets fixed in NE10, it will
>>>>> just be a one line change patch that will follow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either way, request that we make progress on review/merge rest of the patches.
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