[ogg-dev] Ambisonics und OggPCM

Jean-Marc Valin jean-marc.valin at usherbrooke.ca
Mon Nov 14 14:44:43 PST 2005


I always thought of you as a harmless idiot, but I no longer think you
are harmless. You are now alone working on the OggPCM because everyone
got tired of your power trip (I always thought some power was required
to do that). Funnily enough, from the moment people gave up on you, it
took only 24 hours to write a much better OggPCM definition than what
you had (even though we don't consider it complete yet). How is that
possible? Because instead of threatening to ban everyone that disagreed
from ogg-dev, everyone just came together, proposed new ideas and
(especially) made compromises.

On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 13:12 -0800, Arc wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 03:10:22AM +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> > That spec is being superceded by:
> > 
> >      http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/OggPCM2
> The project has been forked, not superceded.

Sorry, but that fork took over now. As I mentioned in the last email,
your version needs to be renamed ArcPCM to reflect the fact that it's a
mix of Pulse Code Modulation with your ego.

> Work on OggPCM is continuing, the team working on OggPCM2 is free to submit 
> their own draft but some are not welcome to continue work on OggPCM due to 
> their recent social conduct.

First don't worry, as I mentioned before nobody in their right mind
wants to see your version anymore. Now, let's talk about recent social
conducts since you didn't seem to get the point in my last email. The
only person with a social problem here is you. I've seen some of the
emails/IRC you sent privately to Zen, Silvia, Conrad where you talk like
you're a sort of "master of Xiph". Or perhaps you don't
remember /msg'ing me with "<Arc> why are you being an asshole". For
those interested in a laugh, the full log is at
http://people.xiph.org/~jm/Arc-20051111.txt while the public discussion
is at http://people.xiph.org/~jm/xiph20051111.txt

> I'm requesting that the team working on OggPCM2 rename their project to avoid 
> confusion, prehaps to the four letter "WAVE" which would fill the first 32-bits 
> as codec magic.

Is that humor? Come on, I'm sure you can do better.

> Neither team has produced a "release canidate" draft up for approval by Xiph as 
> a whole, so both can be considered parrellel projects.

"...for approval by Xiph..." so who do you think Xiph is? Xiph is
exactly the people that you pissed off. Yes, even though you don't
consider them to be in your "inner circle" (no pun intended), Silvia,
Zen, Erik (among others) *are* important contributors (directly or
indirectly) to Xiph. If someone needed to be excluded from this list it
would be you, but I even object to that because that would be
discrimination based on brain ownership. 

As a summary in case it still isn't clear: "please hide under a rock and
let us forget about you for a while".


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