[Icecast] Pathing syntax for icecast.xml in Windows

Mon Jun 1 15:52:09 UTC 2015

On 1 Jun 2015, at 17:39, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:

> Marvin,
>
> Ah, thank you for clarifying where "webroot" is.
>
> The application here will be a non-public stream with one listener
> client. Icecast is hosted on a computer at our radio station. It will
> receive a stream from a stream client at a remote live music event.
> There will be one listener: a media player running on another computer
> on the network at the station which will send the audio to the FM
> transmitter.
>
> The intial setup works fine just doing the minimum suggested
> modifications to icecast.xml: change passwords and usernames, and give
> mountpoint a unique name. This is all toward the top of the config 
> file.
>
> There is a large section toward the bottom of the config file where 
> one
> defines normal mounts and suchlike. It comes commented out and I've 
> left
> it that way since so far the setup is working.
>
> To add a fallback, I read here (http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Icecast2) 
> that
> all I really need to do at this point is uncomment out the following 
> in
> the config file:
>
> <mount>
> <mount-name>/MountnameSameAsStaticFilename.mp3</mount-name>
> <fallback-mount/MountnameSameAsStaticFilename.mp3</fallback-mount>
> <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
> </mount>

As far as I know what you have to do is, define a mount section for your 
stream:

<mount>
	<mount-name>/mystream.mp3</mount-name>
	<fallback-mount>/fallback.mp3</fallback-mount>
</mount>

I don't think that the fallback would need a config to just fallback to 
itself, this makes no
sense to me.
(Disclaimer: I've never configured a fallback setup like yours)

> And avoid doing the more complicated setting up of normal mounts, etc.
> since everything is working well so far without having to do so.
>
> -- 
> that Jack Elliott
> 541 848 7021
> Producer Wednesday Point, Host, The Sunday Classics
> KPOV 88.9, High Desert Radio
> Audio geek
>
> On 06/01/2015 07:45 AM, Marvin Scholz wrote:
>> On 1 Jun 2015, at 16:31, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Marvin, thank you.
>>>
>>> Okay, then to be clear, "webroot" for the purposes of running 
>>> Icecast
>>> under Windows would be the same folder where icecast.xml is normally
>>> found, i.e., C:\Program Files\icecast
>> The webroot is where the web files are, so it should be `web` on 
>> Windows
>> and
>> contain files like `status.xsl`.
>>
>>> And, if I read you correctly, suppose my normal mount coming from my
>>> source client is called /example  (it is an mp3 stream so I don't
>>> specify , and highlighted in yellow, the extension). If I place a 
>>> file called "example.mp3" in the
>>> webroot, and rename my live mount "example.mp3" then will Icecast
>>> automatically fall back to the static file in the event that the
>>> source
>>> client goes off-air?
>> No, I re-checked to be clear and the correct statement is:
>> Icecast will treat static files like mounts if they are in webroot. 
>> This
>> means that if you
>> have a mount defined in your config with the name foo.mp3 and you 
>> have a
>> foo.mp3 in your webroot,
>> Icecast will apply the mount settings (like auth for example) to this
>> static file.
>> Best is to never have a static file with the same name as a 
>> mountpoint
>> you want to stream to.
>>
>> But that handling makes it possible that you can use a static file as
>> fallback mount, because Icecast will
>> play the file, if there is one with the same name as the mountpoint.
>> Just make sure to place the file in the webroot and name it to 
>> something
>> that won't conflict with any other
>> stream. Then enter that name for the fallback mount as explained in 
>> my
>> last mail.
>>
>>> -- 
>>> that Jack Elliott
>>> 541 848 7021
>>> Producer Wednesday Point, Host, The Sunday Classics
>>> KPOV 88.9, High Desert Radio
>>> Audio geek
>>>
>>> On 06/01/2015 07:21 AM, Marvin Scholz wrote:
>>>> On 1 Jun 2015, at 16:04, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Philipp,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find in the Icecast docs the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> "_A fallback mount can also state a file that is located in
>>>>> webroot._
>>>> This is true, and itIt
>>>> expects to be a mount name, as mounts will fallback to files in
>>>> webroot
>>>> with the same name, if they exists, you can use a file as well.
>>>> exactly states what's wrong with your syntax. It
>>>> expects to be a mount name, as mounts will fallback to files in
>>>> webroot
>>>> with the same name, if they exists, you can use a file as well.
>>>> Therefore you can't just put the full path there, like you did. 
>>>> (And
>>>> you
>>>> path does not seem to point to webroot) If you want to have a
>>>> fallback
>>>> file, put it in webroot and just put the filename in the
>>>> fallback-mount,
>>>> as you would usually do with a mountpoint:
>>>>
>>>>   <fallback-mount>/fallback.mp3</fallback-mount>
>>>>
>>>>> This is useful for playing a pre-recorded file in the case of a
>>>>> stream
>>>>> going down. It will repeat until either the listener disconnects 
>>>>> or
>>>>> a
>>>>> stream comes back available and takes the listeners back. As per
>>>>> usual, the file format should match the stream format, failing to 
>>>>> do
>>>>> so may cause problems with playback."
>>>>>
>>>>> This is at http://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.1/config-file.htm
>>>>> <http://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.1/config-file.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> So it appears that one can specify a static file as the fallback. 
>>>>> My
>>>>> question has to do with whether Icecast will be happy with the
>>>>> syntax
>>>>> I have proposed as the path to the file.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> that Jack Elliott
>>>>> 541 848 7021
>>>>> Producer Wednesday Point, Host, The Sunday Classics
>>>>> KPOV 88.9, High Desert Radio
>>>>> Audio geek
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05/31/2015 05:12 AM, Philipp Schafft wrote:
>>>>>> reflum,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 09:30 -0700, that Jack Elliott wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Icecast.xml sh"A fallback mount can also state a file that is
>>>>>>> located in webroot. This
>>>>>>> is useful for playing a pre-recorded file in the case of a 
>>>>>>> stream
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> down. It will repeat until either the listener disconnects or a
>>>>>>> stream
>>>>>>> comes back available and takes the listeners back. As per usual,
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> file format should match the stream format, failing to do so may
>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>> problems with playback."ows a sample path to a mountpoint 
>>>>>>> fallback
>>>>>>> file as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <fallback-mount>/example2.ogg</fallback-mount>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under Windows, will this next work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <fallback-mount>"C:\Users\username\Desktop\foldername\subfoldername
>>>>>>> \fallback.mp3"</fallback-mount>
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you misunderstanding fallbacks a bit: Those are not files
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> actual mounts (which may be files within the webroot).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would suggest to read docs for more info:
>>>>>> http://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.1/config-file.html#mountsettings
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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