[Icecast] Automatic Update of MP3 Files

Sat Sep 27 16:16:01 UTC 2014

I have heard they will have a video streaming available soon? How far off
are they?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Scott Winterstein

EMAIL: 0turn1 at gmail dot com

On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Gene Steinberg <gene at theparacast.com>
wrote:

> That’s better. This is helpful and I sent the information off to the
> Webmaster to review.
>
> Peace,
> Gene
>
>
> > On Sep 27, 2014, at 1:05 AM, Thomas B. Rücker <thomas at ruecker.fi> wrote:
> >
> > On 09/26/2014 10:33 PM, Gene Steinberg wrote:
> >> Please make an effort to actually respond to what I asked, and don’t
> presume to tell me what I did wrong and how it’s my fault — or his fault.
> >
> > That's exactly what I'm doing, I'm trying to figure out what situation
> > you are in, so that I can properly respond to your questions, without
> > having to resort to guessing and assumptions. This inevitably leads to
> > more questions, before you start getting answers.
> > So far the situation is becoming more clear but there are still fairly
> > many question marks preventing me from giving you a concise and targeted
> > answer.
> >
> >
> >> I assume the distribution is the one on the Icecast site. I have a
> CentOS 6.5 server, using cPanel/WHM.
> >
> > The clean way to install Icecast on CentOS6 would be from the EPEL6
> > repository. RPMforge maybe too (haven't tried myself).
> > A third option would be that a package of Icecast 2.4 from my OBS
> > repository was installed.
> > In addition there are:
> > - SRPM rebuilt and installed
> > - built and installed from source
> >
> > It would help us to help you further if you could clarify how Icecast
> > was installed on the machine. You can do this by e.g. checking which
> > repositories are enabled and by checking the package version of Icecast
> > using the 'rpm' command. Probably something like "rpm -q icecast".
> >
> > In most cases you'll have an init script and can use:
> > /etc/init.d/icecast
> > That will give you control of the Icecast server process.
> >
> > Seeing that icegenerator is in /usr/local that means it was installed
> > from source, combined with the instructions you posted previously there
> > seems to be no init script for that.
> >
> > To sum up, I can currently state:
> > - Use the init script to start/stop Icecast
> > - Follow the instructions given to you for the rest
> >
> > Regarding your "dynamic reload" problem, my previous statement remains.
> >
> > "I'm not familiar with Icegenerator.
> > Have you tried reading its documentation?
> > http://www.becrux.com/index.php?page=projects&name=icegenerator
> >
> > If that doesn't fit your bill you could switch to a different source
> > client that's capable to reload its play list dynamically. That might be
> > e.g. ez-stream, but there are many."
> >
> > If you give us some more information about your work flow for populating
> those playlists someone on the list might be able to suggest a better
> suited source client or a modifictation to your current setup.
> >
> >
> >
> >> give me a real step-by-step answer.
> >
> > Without understand your situation fully, it is impossible to give you
> > "exact steps".
> > At the risk of angering you further I'm going to say, that what you are
> > asking for goes in some aspects beyond the scope of this list:
> > We offer help to people who want to figure things out and help
> > themselves, we do not do individual project work on behalf of other
> people.
> > That said you are welcome to solicit paid help for your particular setup
> > on this list. Usually we see several answers to such requests.
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Thomas Ruecker
> >
> >> Gene Steinberg
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Thomas B. Rücker <thomas at ruecker.fi>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 09/26/2014 07:15 PM, Gene Steinberg wrote:
> >>>> Linked file means the original MP3 file posted on the server.
> >>>>
> >>>> init script? Tell me where to find one? That’s what the Web guy
> evidently didn’t know, since he’s not experienced at Icecast.
> >>> If Icecast was installed from a distribution package, then there
> usually
> >>> is a distribution specific way to start/stop/etc the server, in this
> >>> case Icecast. In most cases this is an init script. Although nowadays
> >>> systemd is becoming more popular and there it would be a service
> >>> definition file.
> >>>
> >>> Long story short:
> >>> There should be one already. Depending on what your "web guy" did to
> >>> Icecast and its configuration, it may or may not work though.
> >>>
> >>> It sounds like what you need is a proper system administrator and not a
> >>> "web guy".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Thomas
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Thomas B. Rücker <thomas at ruecker.fi>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 09/26/2014 01:57 PM, Gene Steinberg wrote:
> >>>>>> Well, not quite. The radio network that carries my two radio shows
> does on-demand and live.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We just wanted an on-demand streamer for our own needs.
> >>>>> I don't understand why you call this on demand, but then use a source
> >>>>> client to stream it, that's not really on-demand, that's still
> >>>>> considered streaming.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On demand is usually considered something where the content is always
> >>>>> started from the beginning (unless client and server explicitly
> >>>>> implement resume).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The code from our webmaster to update after a linked file is
> replaced is:
> >>>>> What is a "linked file"? What does this mean?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 1) You need to update the playlist file with the new show.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  A) PARACAST FILE LIVES HERE: /usr/local/etc/paracast.m3u
> >>>>>>  B) TECH NIGHT OWN FILE LIVES HERE: /usr/local/etc/nightowl.m3u
> >>>>> Given that the file names here match the file names in 3) (except the
> >>>>> m3u/cfg file extension), I'm going to guess that those are play lists
> >>>>> that then are being streamed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 2) Shut down/restart icecast. (there may be ways of not having to
> restart the stream, but it's beyond me)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  A) RUN THIS COMMAND: ps -C icecast
> >>>>>>  B) Get the PID # that is shown for icecast
> >>>>>>  C) RUN THIS COMMAND (where PID# is from above): kill PID#
> >>>>>>  D) RUN THIS COMMAND: /usr/bin/icecast -c /etc/icecast.xml -b
> >>>>>>  E) You MIGHT have to hit CTRL-C after that last step to return to
> prompt.
> >>>>> This is most certainly NOT necessary. What would make you think that
> you
> >>>>> need to do this?
> >>>>> Also why are you not using an init script?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 3) Restart icegenerator (this is what serves the mp3 files to
> icecast)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  A) RUN THIS COMMAND: /usr/local/bin/icegenerator -f
> /usr/local/etc/paracast.cfg
> >>>>>>  B) RUN THIS COMMAND: /usr/local/bin/icegenerator -f
> /usr/local/etc/nightowl.cfg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So what am I missing? Can we make this dynamic?
> >>>>> I'm not familiar with Icegenerator.
> >>>>> Have you tried reading its documentation?
> >>>>> http://www.becrux.com/index.php?page=projects&name=icegenerator
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If that doesn't fit your bill you could switch to a different source
> >>>>> client that's capable to reload its play list dynamically. That
> might be
> >>>>> e.g. ez-stream, but there are many.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thomas
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Thomas B. Rücker <thomas at ruecker.fi>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 09/26/2014 12:39 AM, Gene Steinberg wrote:
> >>>>>>>> So I have a new Icecast setup with two channels, each of which
> carries a link to MP3 files.
> >>>>>>> Icecast is intended for live streaming, not for serving static
> files.
> >>>>>>> Which of both are you doing here?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Whenever I update the .m3u file to reflect a changed link, I have
> to restart Icecast and the Icegenerator to make it recognize the change.
> >>>>>>> Where do you update a m3u file? Icecast generates dynamic m3u
> files for
> >>>>>>> streams, so creating your own is usually not necessary.
> >>>>>>> Or is this something in your source client side (Icegenerator?).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thomas
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
> >
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