[Icecast] Shoutcast YP/WinAmp Directory Listing

oddsock oddsock at oddsock.org
Fri Jul 15 12:16:50 PDT 2005


 From a technical standpoint, we could make this happen, however :

1. the Shoutcast listing protocol is completely different from the Icecast 
one, and so we'd have to code it and maintain it.
2. (more importantly) Shoutcast has, in the past, banned all non-shoutcast 
stations (and yes, even specifically icecast stations) from their 
directory.  They've explicitly stated they don't want icecast stations in 
their directory, so we respect that and do not try to subvert the process.

Their rationale ? They say that listener counts are too easily faked 
(certainly true) and thus they cannot rely on the listener counts being 
correct.  It's kind of an empty argument since it's fairly trivial to fake 
the shoutcast listener counts too..but hey, who am I to judge :)

Why can Steamcast list on shoutcast ? Who knows.. I think Jay reads this 
list, perhaps he can chime in....

oddsock
At 01:45 PM 7/15/2005, you wrote:
>Looking at the faq on steamcast, it sais they list mounts on
>shoutcast.com
>Why cant icecast?
>
>regards
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Behalf Of oddsock
>Sent: 15 July 2005 7:24 PM
>To: icecast at xiph.org
>Subject: Re: [Icecast] Shoutcast YP/WinAmp Directory Listing
>
>Nope.
>http://forum.icecast.org/viewtopic.php?t=46
>
>you can, however, use my MediaLibrary plugin to view the Icecast
>directory in winamp.  http://www.oddsock.org/tools/ml_icecastlist
>
>
>oddsock
>At 01:15 PM 7/15/2005, you wrote:
> >Hi;
> >Is it possible for an Icecast stream to get listed in the Shoutcast YP
>and
> >WinAmp?  If so, what's the correct syntax for the directory entry?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Fred
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