[icecast] bit/bytes <= broadcasting : the state of art ?

Stefan Neufeind stefan at neufeind.net
Mon Mar 1 02:29:57 PST 2004



On 1 Mar 2004 at 11:21, EISELE Pascal wrote:

> Our webradio (Let's Go Zik - http://www.letsgozik.com) works with
> donation and partenship. I think it's the only way to keep a webradio
> alive for the moment... We are making our radio in a associative
> way... It's quite hard to "find" listeners. Currently we are nearly
> broadcasting for 60 simultaneous listeners (and approx. 5000
> differents listeners per months)... The problem is the same for
> everybody : bandwith ! Multicast is not a reliable solution for the
> moment because operating systems such as Windows doesn't support it
> yet (Windows 95,95,ME,NT). Moreover, the worldwilde web is not
> multicast ready yet ! The P2P broadcasting is not the solution, I
> think... Here (in France), connection speed are 512 Kbps for download
> and 128 Kbps for upload. So, a listener couldn't re-send correctly the
> stream to another. Moreover, P2P broadcasting increase delay between
> the "real sound" (that are encoded at the studio) and the sound heard
> by listeners... I think that a Java Applet for P2P webradio should be
> great but it's not possible... Java Applets cannot be connected to
> something different from the server that they come from. In fact, it's
> possible but you must "sign" the applet with a official and valide
> certificate. Such certificates costs 200$ or euros per years...

Only solution would be to use a self-signed cert, if you can get your 
users to accept that certificate. Have seen that with a chat-applet 
once, where all users were prompted by their browser to accept this 
self-signed applet. However then you have a problem if you trust the 
site (since the applet then has (almost) full control over your PC).

  Stefan
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