[icecast] legalities of streaming
djstatik at djstatik.net
Thu Jun 12 01:49:24 UTC 2003
Hmmm, so in summary, anyone wanting to put together a station for a couple
of hundred listeners with out a massive bank account, it can not be done
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From: "Chris G (Moguta)" <chrisg1 at umbc.edu>
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Subject: RE: [icecast] legalities of streaming
<p>> Basically, to legally broadcast music you must:
> A) Obtain permissions from the copyright holder (usually the publisher,
> label) of the *composition*. ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC offer compulsory
> for all of the artists they represent, fees based upon roughly how many
> listeners your station has & how many songs in your broadcast are by
> artists/composers they represent.
> B) Obtain permissions from the copyright holder of the particular
> of the composition you want to play. SoundExchange (a division of the
> offers a compulsory license at .07 cents per song per listener, for every
> you play. There *was* a deal for an alternative percent of revenue
> but the legislation authorizing this had a sunset clause of December 2002.
> C) Switch your Internet connection to one where servers are allowed,
> business connections.
> D) Pay royalties for using MP3 technology in your stream, or WMA, AAC,
> Ogg Vorbis is great here, since there are no royalties to pay.
> If any music you wish to play is not represented by ASCAP, BMI, SESAC and
> their overseas performance right organizations (or if you don't want to go
> with the compulsory licensing), then you must negotiate directly with the
> publishers for rights to broadcast their music. The publishers have every
> right to blow you off & not even *consider* licensing their music to you.
> RIAA/SoundExchange compulsory licensing covers even non-members
> though RIAA-members recieve 19 times the amount of royalties directed to
> non-members. (SoundExchange admits it on their site.)
> Compulsory licensing is financial death for anyone without a significant
> of money. Direct negotiation as an alternative is just painful, though,
> especially when many will refer you BACK TO THEIR REPRESENTING
> (i.e. ASCAP).
> >===== Original Message From Mark Lehrer <mark at knm.org> =====
> >> What are the current legalities in relation to non commercial music
> >> streams, or more accurately put non profit streams, and is this
> >> currently being seriously policed?
> >Yes it is being seriously policed. This is controlled by copyright
> >law; there are three companies that basically control all music
> >copyrights; ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC. From what I understand, you will
> >need a "compulsory" license from each, and they now have additional
> >royalty payments and reporting requirements for the songs you play.
> >jwz had a good write-up of this (before the big royalty agreement
> >though). It's a must-read:
> >The only way I have found around this is to play music that is
> >"legally tradeable", e.g. live phish, dead, metallica, etc who allow
> >you to share electronic copies. If you use their music this way, then
> >there can be no revenue of any kind; even a banner ad will get you in
> >It's painful. Basically it is designed to keep the hobbyists out.
> >Copyrights should be a lot shorter, and should never be allowed to be
> >owned by a corporation... works for hire should have different, and
> >even shorter, terms.
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