[icecast] OT: OGG in the mainstream

[Mark Casey]

I think when the real-time cbr encoding issues are sorted Vorbis (this is my
experience with oddcast dsp, winamp and icecast 2 win32, big cpu hog) will
start gaining more ground, also I think it will also gain more ground when
it starts getting implemented into the more mainstream software and hardware
products.
For the most part vbr mp3 (btw, provide mp3's for downloads as vbr.. Better
quality for filesize than cbr) is more than suitable, however where I think
Vorbis should be focused on is the lower bitrate area because quite frankly
like I said mp3 is more than suitable for anything greater than 160kbps, but
at lower bitrates Vorbis thoroughly thrashes all except RealAudio at low
bitrates, but then.. Nobody likes Real's player so no one will use that
anytime soon. (I mean in regards to small broadcasters)
Streaming stuff is where its at, like Icecast, Shoutcast etc and getting the
best possible quality out of the limited bandwidth available. That's where
OGG Vorbis really shines and beats the crap out of MP3, WMA etc.

How long it takes to reach mainstream, I have no idea.. When perhaps the
majority of hardware players support OGG Vorbis playback and stuff like
Shoutcast supports Vorbis, then it will probably happen. (lets face facts,
the majority of small broadcasters are ignorant of icecast and like all
human beings are innately lazy, therefore they'll stick with shoutcast.. So
until shoutcast and its dsp supports vorbis they'll be broadcasting in mp3
only)

Mark
 

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Brandon
Sent: 14 July 2003 21:50
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: [icecast] OT: OGG in the mainstream

<p>Just curious....

how longs do you guys think it will be before OGG is a mainstream
format....meaning as widley accepted and supported as mp3, wma, ect ect?

Just wondering because I just added an MP3 music store to my radio station
(www.FightForRock.com), and while I do broadcast in OGG (and several other
formats) I chose to sell music in MP3 formatbased on it being the best
supported compressed audio format. I am toying with the idea of sellign OGG
versions too.

Brandon

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