[icecast] Please confirm your message

Thu Nov 21 23:04:00 UTC 2002


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> From: "Scott Prive" <scottprive at earthlink.net>
> To: icecast at xiph.org
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> Subject: RE: [icecast] directory servers
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> > www.icecast.org contains information regarding the icecast 
> > 1.x releases. 
> > Development on that series has stopped in favor of Icecast2 
> > and Ices2, for 
> 
> Are you serious???
> 
> The development state of "Icecast 1" vs. Icecast2 has *nothing* to do with the
> web site. Not from a user perspective anyways.
> 
> What's infuriating is you're not even ASKING for help.. you're justifying
> NEGLECT. The *.icecast.org web family is ABANDONED. 
> 
> LISTEN to your users; you won't hear a PEEP from the people who simply hit
> "Back" on their webbrowser will you? 
> 
> I'd have more sympathy for your position if you said you were in dire need of
> volunteers to impliment some improvements you have in mind, but that's not
> what you're saying.
> 
> Here are some constructive suggestions:
> 1) Fix the directory server, or TAKE IT DOWN. My guess is there has been no
> decision to take it down, and for whatevr reason, no one wants to FIX it. If
> the directory server protocol has changed in Icecast2, then consider running
> an Ices2 directory server. If the Icecast2 directory code is not yet ready..
> then it's probably premature to declare Icecast1 dead isn't it?
> 
> 2) Are there NO Icecast2 issues worthy of a FAQ?
> 
> 3) Are there NO Icecast2 Development milestones & success which are
> newsworthy?
> 
> 4) How about links to other applications that have dependencies on Icecast?
> You know.. "community" stuff.
> 
> 5) If nothing happens for a very long time, just say so. Every few months a
> web note of "Hello... we're still here..." will be informative, since it
> indicates someone cares (and shows you still know tha password)
> 
> If I sound unfairly harsh, it's because of justifying the state of the website
> being due to the Icecast1 to Icecast2 transition. 
> 
> Seriously... if you need help, put up a "Help Wanted" webpage with a list of
> many small TODO items people could claim.
> 
> It's good to hear there is work on updated web pages. Looking forward to it.
> :-)
> 
> Peace,
> 
> Scott
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Manuel Lora [mailto:vanguardist at cox.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:59 PM
> > To: icecast at xiph.org
> > Subject: Re: [icecast] directory servers
> > 
> > 
> > We're in the process of updating web pages.
> > 
> > www.icecast.org contains information regarding the icecast 
> > 1.x releases. 
> > Development on that series has stopped in favor of Icecast2 
> > and Ices2, for 
> > Ogg Vorbis streaming, and thus, the new page will be updating 
> > accordingly.
> > 
> > 
> > ml
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday 21 November 2002 02:42 pm, Dale Ghent wrote:
> > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Martin Blackwell wrote:
> > > | i remember a while ago when nothing was listed- or 
> > yp.icecast.org didnt
> > > | like mozilla 1.1
> > >
> > > yp.icecast.org has been broken for some time, and the icecast
> > > "maintainers" do not seem to care.
> > >
> > > It's a orphaned site, for all intents and purposes, it seems.
> > >
> > > Unless "they" (xiph.org? vorbis.com?) want someone to step 
> > up and maintain
> > > icecast.org.
> > >
> > > /dale
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