[icecast] a new directory service
jack at xiph.org
Mon Sep 17 15:38:15 UTC 2001
> >First off, I think getting rid of # of listeners is a must.
> while it seems to be a very popular desire to get rid of this metric all
> together, it is my opinion, that you cannot get rid of this metric
> entirely. The reason why it is so hotly debated, is because it is
> important. what is needed is a way to measure the popularity of a
> station. What I want as a listener is the ability to find out which
> stations are professionally done and which are simply playlists of mp3s on
> shuffle play. For mp3 streams, for me this was done through the listener
> counts. Taking away this metric (or effectively eliminating it) is, in my
> opinion, not a good thing.
Listener count is not a good indication I don't think. I think that
it's possible to figure out this information from the other information
provided. Ie, what's in the description tag? Also, this is
> how about instead of bitrate, something more generic like "Quality". This
> should be a number, which (in the case of application/ogg) might be 64 (as
> in kbps) or (in the case of audio/mpeg) might be 30 (as in FPS). I would
> say, for most media types, it would be a bitrate, but not all.
Video still has a bitrate, and that is a better judge of quality.
Certainly with current technology, I'd rather eat the framerate at lower
bitrates, than watch a bunch of blurs.
We could add a second tag 'rate', which could be in kHz for audio, and
in fps for video based streams. We could also add a 'channels' to
describe the number of audio channels (it's not unlikely we will see
surround sound Ogg streams) and maybe a 'size' for picture size (ex.:
> > email address of the streams maintainer
> > ex.: jack at xiph.org
> is this necessary ? you don't want people scraping the directory for email
> addresses (this was done in the past with the SC list)
I think so. I want people who like my station to be able to contact me.
Certainly some fields are mandatory, but I think people who listed their
email (or a contact email in general, even if it's
stationmaster at mystream.com) probably care more about their station. I
have emailed plenty of broadcasters in the past who were doing
interesting things. And it was always a pain in the ass to fidn their
address, especially if they didn't list it on their homepages.
> what happened to "Currently playing" ? In addition to this, "last 3 songs"
> would also be very good. would require a bit more storage on the server
> side, but not that much.
It's time-dependent data. If a client wants that, it shoudl request it
from the server to make sure it gets a valid answer. It does us little
good to display what people played 10 minutes ago and say that's what
they are playing now.
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