[foms] HLS and HLS patents

[Silvia Pfeiffer]

I agree that it may be a defensive patent of Apple and I don't know how
strongly Apple wants to hold on to their IP there.

It may be necessary to invent a new file format and not reuse m3u8, because
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-01 says that
derivative works are not allowed.

I could try and find somebody in Apple to help direct the right way to
approach this for Ogg and WebM.

Silvia.


On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Jeroen Wijering
<jeroen at longtailvideo.com>wrote:

>
> This filing might actually be a defensive step against Move:
>
>
> http://newteevee.com/2010/09/15/move-gets-streaming-patent-are-adobe-apple-hosed/
>
> Move networks is the first company that deployed "chunking" on a large
> scale.
>
> - Jeroen
>
>
>
>
> > Hello people,
> >
> > I am not sure if this is on-topic of this list. If it isn't, then, sorry.
> >
> > Following the FOMS workshop (thanks a lot Silvia), I have done some work
> > and some research about HLS.
> > Since that workshop, we have fixed infinite live .webm streams in VLC,
> > improved the HLS serving part of VLC to be TS-independant, and
> > implemented a first HLS client implementation that actually does
> > adaptive bandwidth. We still have to work on doing a live .webm
> > streaming, though.
> >
> > But more importantly, we've hit "Real-Time or Near Real-Time Streaming"
> > patent from Apple.
> >
> http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220100169458%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20100169458&RS=DN/20100169458
> >
> > Isn't that an issue compared to the different solutions overviewed at
> > the workshop?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Baptiste Kempf
> > http://www.jbkempf.com/
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