[Flac-dev] flac can occasionally be worse than shorten
M.S.Powell at salford.ac.uk
Thu Feb 8 15:50:50 PST 2001
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Josh Coalson wrote:
> had to fix the subject... was getting under my skin!
Ooops. Sorry. I didn't mean it to sound like flac is worse than shorten. I
appreciate all the good work you are doing and hope my test results are
> yeah, could you put up the FLAC version of the
> worst track that is less than 20 megs compressed?
> (I'll have to grab it with a 56k modem). by worst
> I mean the one where shorten beats flac by the most.
> 1. what version of shorten are you using?
# shorten -h | head -1
shorten: version 3.1: (c) 1992-1999 Tony Robinson and SoftSound Ltd
> 2. what command-line options for flac and shorten
> did you use on this track?
$ shorten file.wav
$ flac -V file.wav file.flac
I've just updated flac from cvs and have remade the flac files to make
sure they're up to date.
# l `which flac`
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 142426 8 Feb 23:33 /usr/local/bin/flac
The amount by which the flac file is bigger than the shorten file for
all the tracks is:
341166 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (01) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Devil's Anvil ~ Eddie Warner.wav
-425308 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (02) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Funky Kid ~ Eddie Warner.wav
-562009 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (03) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Brutas Drums ~ Eddie Warner.wav
-302234 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (04) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Shut Up ~ Eddie Warner.wav
561561 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (05) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Zone Y ~ Eddie Warner.wav
869148 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (06) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Titus ~ Eddie Warner.wav
514728 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (07) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Knock It ~ Eddie Warner.wav
590301 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (08) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Black Power ~ Eddie Warner.wav
271671 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (09) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Night Fight ~ Eddie Warner.wav
34914 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (10) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Check Point Charlie ~ Eddie Warner.wav
250768 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (11) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Electronic Track ~ Eddie Warner.wav
326376 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (12) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Come ~ Eddie Warner.wav
313358 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (13) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Hard Labour ~ Eddie Warner.wav
-152681 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (14) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Stop Stuttering ~ Eddie Warner.wav
-372400 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (15) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Organic ~ Eddie Warner.wav
269848 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (16) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Eccentric Trick ~ Eddie Warner.wav
Thus track 6 is the biggest difference.
# l *06*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 27866540 7 Feb 20:29 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (06) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Titus ~ Eddie Warner.wav
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16649273 8 Feb 23:36 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (06) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Titus ~ Eddie Warner.wav.flac
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15780125 7 Feb 20:31 Jazzbeat 2 ~ (06) Eddie Warner ~ ~ Titus ~ Eddie Warner.wav.shn
I'll take that into work tomorrow and let you know by private email how
to get it.
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