[Xiph-Advocacy] Artwork resources.

[Cory K.]

xiphmont at xiph.org wrote:
> On Jan 19, 2008 10:35 AM, Cory K. <coryisatm at nc.rr.com
> <mailto:coryisatm at nc.rr.com>> wrote:
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>        * Why weren't free fonts used?
>
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> Free fonts are either fonts that are used to death (one of trite,
> cliched or inappropriate), or they're just poor quality.

This is really just too broad a generalization and can't agree.
 
>
>     These look like "Adobe Garamond
>          Regular".
>
>
> They are.  There are free Garamond clones, none are as good as the
> Adobe font.
>  
>
>     Or something along those lines. (reference:
>          http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/logos
>     <http://people.xiph.org/%7Exiphmont/logos>)
>
>
> PLEASE do not just substitute a random Times Roman variant and call it
> good enough.

I never did. I simply showed a font that was close and never said this
*should* be used instead.

> This is the sort  of thing that caused us to hire a professional
> visual designer rather than solicit public submissions: the subtle
> differences that differentiate "cool but amatuerish" from
> "professional; I'm taking it more seriously just because of the way it
> looks, but I don't understand why."

Sure. Completely understandable. Though I will say that I feel the use
of a non-free font is contrary to what I always felt Xiph was about.

> I'm going to be unapologetically picky as all hell about our branding
> and imagery.  The number of contacts we get that simply assume we're
> fortune-5000 size based solely on the branded imagery is a little scary.

As well it should. I realize how important it is and simply posed a
question to which I feel you've still given a unnecessarily aggressive
response.

>        * Could a free font be officially adopted? I've used FreeSerif
>     here.
>
>
> Short answer is unfortunately no.
>  
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>        * Are any of these wrong? What are supposed to be official
>     logos for
>          the various Xiph formats?
>
>
> Theora is a logo that never got settled, just so you know.

Sure. Just something I found while digging.


So besides all the font chat, (which isn't really the point here) what
about a place on the wiki with official art/logos to be used? Press and
fan resource material.

I come from a very D.I.Y. background and would love to have official
logos to use the help spread free media.


Sebastian Pipping wrote: 
>> http://people.xiph.org/%7Exiphmont/logos
>
> btw these logos are all incredible.
> do we show the oggflac frog anywhere?
> haven't seen it before.
>
> -sebastian

I agree. Its very nice. Monty told me when I asked why the FLAC page
didn't match the rest of the Xiph pages was because "Josh wanted to stay
more independent". So this could be part of reason we don't really see it.

-Cory