[advocacy] Ogg & Ogg Vorbis _unofficial_ logos page.

[Daniel James]

> We don't have anyone here good enough to compete at a level where
> we'd accept the logos. 

Maybe you need to invite more entries then - put out an announcement 
for an official competition with a prize. Look at the quality design 
going into desktop themes - the talent is out there.

> We need the help of experienced people.  To my knowledge, accepting 
> random logos from hackers doesn't qualify for this either.

You've got we wrong there - I do have some background in design, but I 
don't qualify as a hacker. I'm just a user. Secondly, neither effort 
was random - they were trying to address an identified problem.

> > Why do you think iRiver created their own logo for Vorbis
> > support?
>
> Because they didn't know what else to use. 

Exactly.

> The fish logo looks fine in black and white.

For someone selling fish, sure.

> I don't believe that
> the logos are done separately

I meant they would all be screen-printed or whatever at the same time, 
so you can't supply a detailed four-colour logo when everyone else is 
using simple black logos.

> and probably don't cost any more
> regardless of the number of colors.

I can tell you're not a print buyer.... If the rest of the graphics, 
eg on the packaging, were colour then it wouldn't cost extra. But on 
the actual hardware it certainly would. You'll rarely see printing on 
a hardware device in more than one or two colours, unless it's a 
sticker. 

Think of a good logo as being a bit like a well-mastered piece of 
audio. It should work at all sizes and in all situations - and get 
across what you're trying to say. 

>  I'm happy to make specialized branding stuff all day long, but
> until there is someone talented at logo work to step up to the
> plate, we'll do with what we have.

That sounds like a challenge to me!

Cheers

Daniel
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