[advocacy] W3C SVG considering using Vorbis

Jose Ramirez joseram at empirenet.com
Tue Jul 22 11:34:03 PDT 2003



Dave H wrote:

> Jose Ramirez wrote:
> 
> <snip/>
> 
>> "It is an open question what audio formats, if any, would be required 
>> for conformance. For the image element, SVG mandates support of PNG, 
>> JPEG and SVG formats and allows others. All three mandatory formats 
>> may be implemented without royalty payments. Many common audio 
>> formats, such as MP3, require payment of royalties. One option under 
>> consideration is the Vorbis audio compression in the Ogg format. 
>> Ogg/Vorbis audio files are believed to be implementable without 
>> royalty payments. Another option is to say that there are no required 
>> formats, and each implementation supports whatever format the 
>> operating system provides. Clearly, this would lead to 
>> non-interoperable, platform-dependent content."
> 
> 
> On a related note, I recently raised the issue of Ogg in relation to the 
> W3C's XHTML 2.0 Working Drafts.  See XHTML 2.0 issue 7358 
> <http://hades.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xhtml2-issues/Object?user=guest;selectid=7358>. 
> 
> 
> Basically the draft uses GIFs and MP3s in a lot of examples; I suggested 
> that PNG, Ogg Vorbis and Ogg Theora might be better formats to use, as 
> they are more in line with the W3C's patent policy.  The present comment 
> from the HTML Working Group is "I changed a few of the comments/examples 
> but I did not change the mp3 references -- at least mp3 is a well known 
> format."  :o(
> 
> (If anyone wants to raise this with the W3C, details of the two HTML 
> mailing lists can be found here: <http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/#forums>)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave

There needs to be a new mindset on audio and video, and treat them just 
like jpegs. Where you save your content in a safe format and years from 
now it's still viable. I think the next phase of the Web, the multimedia 
one, will need Vorbis and Theora, just like the first Web needed jpegs.

Jose Ramirez

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