No, I don't think so. Was: [vorbis] Vorbis 1.0 binary - Beta4 still the best?

[Monty]

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 01:08:25PM +0200, Moritz Grimm wrote:
> Aleksandar Dovnikovic wrote:
> > > The primary difference in Garf's mode is that he allocates a
> > > comparatively huge number of bits to impulse blocks.
> > And that primary difference is why I'd recommend using GT2 if
> > someone wants to use -q above, say, 8.5, because it definitely has
> > less pre-echo (actually I couldn't hear any pre-echo at all) and
> > the average bitrate is similar, or even smaller if you compare it
> > with > q9.0 bitrates.
> 
> I wonder if it's possible to implement something like --garf-tuned
> standard or --garf-tuned high for those two modes in 1.0 to make
> everyone happy? Since many things can now be controlled through those
> advanced options, "--alt-preset"-style things might be possible. I
> hesitate to use the advanced options myself, because I'd propably make
> things worse - presets that address a larger minority's listening
> preferences might be very useful, since it should keep those who don't
> really understand Vorbis (like me and propably most others on this list)
> from creating suboptimal .ogg files.

No, we're not doing presets.  GT2 beats current CVS at ultra-silly
bitrates because I've put comparatively very little effort into tuning
ultra-silly bitrates.  I'll get to it.  I promise.  It's not there
yet.  Calm down. :-)

Monty

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