[vorbis] CVS RC4 -q0 too good!

[Nemo - earth native]

On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 01:53:00PM -0100, fungus did utter:
> Nemo - earth native wrote:
> >
> >If -q0 is so good now, and -q3 is enough for
> >most people... with 4.99 enough for even alot of audiophiles...then it
> >seems a large swathe of "quality range" is wasted, simply because it's
> >"too good".
> >
> 
> This subject has come up before.

And it's come up again. Maybe that's an indication that something needs
to be done? 

> Just because you and I think that most of the scale
> above q5 is "wasted", doesn't mean that nobody else
> can.
> 
> There are plenty of people out there who can tell
> you which way round the speaker cables are connected
> just by listening to the system.

And these people can still use -q10 if they really want to. I'm not
advocating to slide the scale down. Rather, I'm advocating that the
current 0-10 range be compressed (sic) into, say, 3-10 on the "new"
scale, and some new "genuinly low" quality setting be put into the
0-3 range.

If 90% of the people are finding transparency with -q3 (that's 90% of
"real" users, not just audophile ogg-faithfull), then most of the
quality range is for the benefit of the few. So, great for the golden
ears, but I'd rather that extra granularity be given to the masses. 

.../Nemo

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