<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2788">"Unfortunately my search for a good free player for Android was not very successful" - I presume you are using an Android device.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2871" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2872" dir="ltr">If that's the case, portable devices have really bad electronics from the point of view of HiFi - because of low voltage and output amplitude being close to power rails.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2914" dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">My point is that you are not really comparing one lossy format to another, but rather how the lossy formats artifact sound on bad electronics.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2939" dir="ltr">"you can't just install codes" - players for all the formats you mention exist as command line applications, and there are interactive shells for Android.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2983" dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">--Sergei.<br></div><br> <blockquote id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2792" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2791" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2790" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2789" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2855" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2947" face="Arial" size="2"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2949"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2948" style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> vorbis@xiph.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 30, 2015 9:06 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Vorbis] MP3/Vorbis/Opus: What I think I hear<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430383402055_2793" class="y_msg_container"><br>Hi!<br><br>Sorry, I know the rules for comparing objective subjective listening impressions, but I'd like to know whether from the algorithmic or implementer's point of view the following personal impressions can be confirmed:<br><br>Comparing MP3 with Vorbis at rather high bitrates, I had the impression the Vorbis sounded more crispy, while MP3 sounded somewhat softened. I preferred Vorbis for that reason.<br>When comparing Opus to Vorbis, I got the impression that Opus has a slight tendency towards MP3, but noe I feel Vorbis' crispyness is maybe a little too much, and I think I'll prefer Opus. Unfortunately my search for a good free player for Android was not very successful (the shipped players all can't play Opus, and I think you can't just install codes, or can you?)<br><br>Regards,<br>Ulrich<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Vorbis mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Vorbis@xiph.org" href="mailto:Vorbis@xiph.org">Vorbis@xiph.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/vorbis" target="_blank">http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/vorbis</a><br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div></body></html>