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<DIV>Let's forget this subject -- I'm going to use mp3's. Thanks.</DIV>
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<A title=srussell@innernet.net href="mailto:srussell@innernet.net">Steve</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=giles@xiph.org
href="mailto:giles@xiph.org">Ralph Giles</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=Vorbis@xiph.org
href="mailto:Vorbis@xiph.org">Vorbis@xiph.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:36
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vorbis] streaming ogg</DIV>
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<DIV>Well, can you tell me if I can put oggcodecs_0.71.0946.exe on my server
for visitors that would like to use WMP? Are there any legal
stipulations that I need to observe? I was not able to determine this on
that download page.</DIV>
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<DIV>I never did get a clear answer from xiph regarding requirements for
placing xiph_player_plugins_0.7.exe on my server for visitors who prefer
RealPlayer. (They recommended Helix Player.) I have experimented
and found that RealPlayer does not have trouble resuming ogg play after a
lengthy pause.</DIV>
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<A title=giles@xiph.org href="mailto:giles@xiph.org">Ralph Giles</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=srussell@innernet.net
href="mailto:srussell@innernet.net">Steve</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=Vorbis@xiph.org
href="mailto:Vorbis@xiph.org">Vorbis@xiph.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 19, 2007 12:20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vorbis] streaming
ogg</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 10:12:06AM -0400, Steve
wrote:<BR><BR>> We are finding that when we stream an ogg file via a .m3u
file on our server, playing it with Winamp, pausing the player for an
extended period of time results in unpredictable results, such as the file
ceasing to play before EOF. Is this a Winamp issue, or is there something
someone can tell me about streaming ogg in this manner?<BR><BR>Might be a
TCP issue, depending on your operating systems and the <BR>definition of "a
long time". A normal webserver (as opposed to<BR>a "live" stream like
icecast provides) will keep sending data at<BR>whatever rate the client
requests until the file is finished, but<BR>if you pause, the client will
generally stop requesting data. If<BR>no data is sent for long enough
(somewhere between 10 minutes and<BR>a few hours, depending) the TCP stack
will time out and the connection<BR>will drop. The result is that when you
unpause, it will play what <BR>remains in the download buffer, then
stop.<BR><BR>If that's what's happening, it really is a winamp problem,
since it can <BR>detect this and restart the connection. No idea if it does
or not <BR>though.<BR><BR>Does that help?<BR><BR> -r</BLOCKQUOTE>
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