[Vorbis] A Macromedia Shockwave Flash-based Ogg player?

[Andrew Lentvorski]

Ulrich Windl wrote:
> Helix Realplayer plays Vorbis (in Linux at least), so what is the whole discussion 
> about? If you want to hear Vorbis, you can. There are also Vorbis add-ons for 
> Windows Media Player, so what?

So, why is it that it took YouTube to make Internet video a reality?

Zero install.

99.9% of end users are unable to do anything other than click a link. 
Launching anything is a big lose.  Installing something is instant death.

Flash provided a codec that every end user had.  YouTube converted any 
uploaded video into that really crappy format.  Viola!  Instant revolution.

Even WMV via plugin wasn't fast/convenient/ubiquitous enough to 
kickstart everything.  Think about that.

Ogg is so far down from that in convenience that it simply doesn't exist.

A script-based Ogg audio decoder is great.  However, it can't cope with 
video speeds, and it needs a nice, fast, modern machine even for audio.

People, this isn't a technical problem.  It's a marketing problem.  And 
Ogg desperately needs to do some marketing.

-a