[Vorbis] Can't access www.xiph.org from Japan

[Aaron Whitehouse]

Let us not be silly about this.

The original post identified the problem and suggested an 
easy-to-implement solution which would fix it and not offend the 
correctly configured browsers. There is so much concern about making the 
Xiph codecs as accepted as possible and yet people want to make a stand 
at a user's first point of contact. I would not stop people who tied 
their shoelaces incorrectly from shopping at my store, regardless of 
whether I wanted to encourage correct shoe-tieing. I think that the 
original post was very responsible, it pointed to a guide to remedy the 
problem and quite rightly pointed out that those who have an incorrectly 
configured browser would not be able to view the site. The fact that 
they can fix their browser is irrelevant to the fact that, as there is 
an easy remedy, it is worth Xiph catering to those who have the browser 
incorrectly set up as well.

If you are concerned about people setting up their browsers incorrectly, 
feel free to set up a website about its evils, but if Richard Stallman 
can put his ideologies aside (re:licensing) in order to make these 
codecs widely accepted, I think that you probably could as well.

Aaron
 
Christopher Harrington wrote:

> I'm inclined to agree with Ian. People experiencing this issue have a 
> misconfigured browser. The webserver is functioning according to 
> internet standards set by w3.org for all servers to follow.
>
> The fact that other websites don't exhibit the problem is not an 
> indication of a bug in this website. If you no longer wish to 
> encounter the problem, set English as an alternate acceptable language 
> in your browser. That will cause your browser to list English as an 
> acceptable language when it queries the server, which will 
> subsequently return an English page on your request if no Japanese 
> page is available.
>
> I suggest you read the description for the 406 error; it says your 
> browser has essentially told it that English is not an acceptable 
> language. That's like asking you to respond to this message, but you 
> can only respond using UDP packets directed at my IP address. If you 
> replied via email, you would be violating what I listed as an 
> acceptable means for replying to my message.
>
> -Chris Harrington
>
> pub at cyanet.jp wrote:
>
>> I do not know the other English site which return 406 error for
>> Japanese. So, I think xiph's web server is misconfigurated.
>>
>> Most people don't know browser's language setting. So, they stop
>> reading, since they get 406 error per moving pages.
>>
>> Please fix it. What is necessary must just be to add
>> "ForceLanguagePriority Fallback" to httpd.conf.
>> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_negotiation.html#forcelanguagepriority 
>>
>>
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