[vorbis] Why is Vorbis development slow?

SwiftBiscuit swiftbiscuit at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Sep 29 19:57:36 PDT 2003



Thanks for replying Carsten, I wasn't sure anyone
would!

--- Carsten Haese <carsten at uniqsys.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 12:24, SwiftBiscuit wrote:
> > Assuming that you think Vorbis could have
> > developed faster than it has done in the
> > past year, what in your opinion has been
> > holding it back and what remedies do
> > you suggest?
> 
> It was mostly held back by Monty working on
> Theora and portable Vorbis playback.
So I understand, and that was important work but
that's not the real answer.

> That no-one other than Monty has the detailed
> knowledge it takes to make major improvements
> to Vorbis is unfortunate,
This is the real answer.

> but it's nothing that Xiph can change directly.
But if Xiph can't change that, who can?

> The source code is out in the open, and I
> find it sufficiently clear to follow.
*rest snipped*

So you are basically saying that things are fine as
they are, the tools are there for people to use but
they just aren't putting the effort in?

Well I don't think that things are fine how they are,
I think the results prove that. Over the past year
Vorbis had made very little progress with tuning. AAC
has caught it up and the momentum is with that now,
I'd say that Vorbis' money generating potential is
flowing away from it each time AAC beats it in a
listening test.

Without the money to pay for more developers, it's
down to Monty again and the last year has shown that
to not be enough. Xiph needs to get more enthusiasts
to get involved and saying that the tools are there
but people aren’t trying hard enough just doesn't cut
it. It's Xiph's problem, not theirs. Xiph has to
resolve it.

eh, and I wanted this to be a short email!
~Mark

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