[vorbis] OT: good headphones?

[Andy D. Smith]

James said:
> I don't know whether ABXing with headphones would give you the full
picture.
> Maybe it's just a placebo effect, but it's only when I play something back
> through loudspeakers that I'm able to notice any difference. This is most
> noticable on MP3s, but the music often sounds a bit flat, and lacks a
> certain punch (for want of a better technical term!)
>

I find myself hearing more artifacts with headphones than listening from
computer speakers.  And my computer speakers aren't crappy either.  Of
course neither are expensive....

Andy
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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Chapman" <james at player2001.com>
To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [vorbis] OT: good headphones?

<p>> > This is off-topic, mostly, but I figure you guys will have some
knowledge in
> > this sound-quality-related area.
> >
> > I'm sitting here looking at the most recent "Musician's Friend" at
headphones
> > and thinking about getting a pair.  They've got products from AKG,
Fostex,
> > Audio Technica, Nady, Sennheiser, and Sony, at price points ranging from
$16
> > to $130 (list prices $20 to $200).  What should I expect to pay for a
decent
> > pair of headphones?  Any brands to avoid?  I'd be using these for mixing
> > multitrack recordings and editing CD audio, not for general music
listening.
> > I like to buy quality products, but price is somewhat of a factor.
> >
> > (I guess you could say this question is Vorbis-related, because I'd also
use
> > them if I were ABXing.  With my current equipment (crappy passive PC
speakers
> > in a noisy room) I can't even ABX vorbis at quality 1 from the original
CD
> > source.  But I suspect I have dull ears, too (which is a blessing,
really).)
>
> Any of the brands you mention should be OK at the $100+ price point. I
would
> avoid Sony though, as unless you get one of their high-end models (eg.
> CD3000), you're really just paying for the name.
>
> The AKG K501 (~$200) has a very wide sound, and they are the most
> comfortable phones I've ever worn, so if you wanted to work for many hours
> at a stretch, I would recommend them. The only downside is that they're a
> bit lacking in bass response, so I'm now using a pair of Philips 890
> (~$100). As with loudspeakers, the best way to choose a pair would be to
try
> them out beforehand, but I realise that can be a bit difficult sometimes.
> > You should check out the forums at http://www.headwize.com and
> http://www.head-fi.org for some more ideas.
>
> Jim
>
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