[vorbis] just an idea about quality evaluation

Ross Vandegrift ross at willow.seitz.com
Sun Jan 26 12:24:43 PST 2003



On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 05:16:10PM +0100, Stoffke wrote:
> Hello 
> 
> I had an idea about judging the quality of ogg vorbis 
> (or any other lossy codec)

<snip>

Others have commented on why this is a bad test for perceptual lossless
testing, *however*, this test does have it's place.

If you're not comparing how the codecs sound (which most people are
interested in), but what data they throw away, this test is very
valuable.

I did a linguistics research problem on lossy encodings at low bitrates
with mp3.  We used this technique to compare what energy was lost, and
if that loss was acceptable for linguists who wanted to do phonetics
research with lossy compression.

Spectral comparisons are also very useful in doing this kind of "what am
I actually throwing out" comparisons.  Note though, that these
comparisons really don't tell you anything about how something sounds.


-- 
Ross Vandegrift
ross at willow.seitz.com

A Pope has a Water Cannon.                               It is a Water Cannon.
He fires Holy-Water from it.                        It is a Holy-Water Cannon.
He Blesses it.                                 It is a Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
He Blesses the Hell out of it.          It is a Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
He has it pierced.                It is a Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
He makes it official.       It is a Canon Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
Batman and Robin arrive.                                       He shoots them.
--- >8 ----
List archives:  http://www.xiph.org/archives/
Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/
To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request at xiph.org'
containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body.  No subject is needed.
Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.




More information about the Vorbis mailing list