[vorbis] Fw: CD Ripper Beta Software: RipTrax

Andy Dale andycool22 at peoplepc.com
Thu Feb 7 03:31:46 PST 2002



actually I didn't care about this, because the first cd i tried it got the
freedb info and it was completely correct, so i didn't have to rename any
tracks ;)  but i'm sure if the stuff was wrong now i can change it! yay!
ttyl

Andy
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Lundy" <jlundy at playnet.com>
To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [vorbis] Fw: CD Ripper Beta Software: RipTrax

<p>> Andy,
>
>     I just put a new version on the web page. It adds the use of the F2
key
> to edit track names. Select a track and press F2 then edit away.
>
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy (Dale)" <andycool22 at peoplepc.com>
> To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [vorbis] Fw: CD Ripper Beta Software: RipTrax
>
>
> > i have ie 6 and win98se, and i can't rename tracks
> >
> > Andy
> > andycool22 at peoplepc.com
> > AndyCool22 on AIM
> > http://livejournal.com/~andycool22
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Lundy" <jlundy at playnet.com>
> > To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [vorbis] Fw: CD Ripper Beta Software: RipTrax
> >
> >
> > > The edit function may be a OS situation I have not been able to check
(I
> > use
> > > W2K and XP for development). The way track name editing is supposed to
> > work
> > > is like this: 1) highlight the entry you want to change, 2) click the
> > > highlighted track name again (Like in Explorer). The entry *should* go
> > into
> > > edit mode where you can change the name to appear as you like it. This
> can
> > > only be done if you are not presently ripping a track/CD. If this does
> not
> > > work, please let me know your OS and IE version. Thanks.
> > >
> > > I understand the comment on "managed bitrates". Since I generally
agree
> > with
> > > this I am interested in how to properly implement this in RipTrax,
from
> a
> > > user standpoint. For instance, should VBR be the only mode supported?
Or
> > an
> > > option? We aren't streaming, after all. Also, should the interface
just
> > > provide a Quality slider? Left/Bottom being minimum quality (like 0.1
to
> > > OGG) and Right/Top being highest quality? Should there be some
*window*
> > > functionality (min and max bitrate as well as average)? All this adds
up
> > to
> > > a complex UI that can be confusing. Not a design goal of mine.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Wilson" <defiler at null.net>
> > > To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 8:26 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [vorbis] Fw: CD Ripper Beta Software: RipTrax
> > >
> > >
> > > > OK. I may be nuts, but what's the procedure for changing a track
name?
> I
> > > > spent 15 seconds on it, and couldn't figure it out. Double-click,
F2,
> > etc,
> > > > etc, all no workee.
> > > > It has been stated frequently here that "managed bitrates" (like the
> SBR
> > > > mode you refer to) should be avoided whenever possible, because they
> > yield
> > > > lower quality than the "quality" (true VBR) modes. The only reason
to
> > use
> > > > SBR is for certain streaming apps.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Lundy" <jlundy at playnet.com>
> > > > To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:01 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [vorbis] Fw: CD Ripper Beta Software: RipTrax
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Blade is bitrate oriented. Lame is bitrate oriented in its Blade
> > > > > compatibility mode. Ogg is bitrate oriented in the static bit rate
> > (SBR)
> > > > > mode and quality oriented in the VBR mode (a quality value is
> provided
> > > to
> > > > > the DLL interface; a value between .1 and 1). For a generic
> interface
> > to
> > > > all
> > > > > three encoders I elected to use a bitrate centric interface. This
> > brings
> > > > up
> > > > > a good question (thanks to you, Wilson), "Don't higher bitrates
> always
> > > > mean
> > > > > higher quality?" If not, what would be the preferred interface
> > > parameters
> > > > to
> > > > > represent a quality centric application?
> > > > >
> > > > > The present version of Obb Vorbis used by RipTrax is version
1.0rc3.
> > > Once
> > > > > the version information is available from the DLL(s) involved,
this
> > > > > information will appear in the About box, just like Blade and Lame
> > > > versions
> > > > > do. Right now there is no programmatical method to acquire this
> > > > information.
> > > > >
> > > > > Track and artist names can be changed on the Track tab prior to
> > starting
> > > > the
> > > > > ripping process. Once that process is started, the Track and
Config
> > tabs
> > > > are
> > > > > disabled to prevent a user from "shooting himself in the foot", so
> to
> > > > speak.
> > > > > Changing information on these pages during the ripping process
could
> > > have
> > > > > drastic ramifications (i.e. give unpredictable and/or undesireable
> > > > results).
> > > > > A user should make all changes to the Album/Artist/etc information
> > > *prior*
> > > > > to starting the rip.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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