[vorbis] new ogg stream

Jack Moffitt jack at xiph.org
Wed Sep 5 19:57:01 PDT 2001

> The stuff I did last year poking holes in the vq lattices makes me
> *guess* you might be able to peel around ~20% before things got
> unbearable.  (One may do better, they are different in what 'bits'
> get 'thrown away').  When you talk about halving the bitrate, you probably
> need a retuned psy model, and to hit 32k, I think it will require
> post-1.0 work on the core algorithms... Unless the peelable stream is
> generated by only adding bits to the low-bitrate stream.  But vorbis'
> peeling is more of an "incidentally-it-might-sound-OK" type rather than
> "constructed-to-sound-reasonable" type as far as I understand.


Cascaded codebooks were an rc1 feature.  That was one of the big things
for peeling.

Even if we only got 20%, it's an awesome feature, since that allows us
to fine tune streams on the fly.

But I leave it up to Monty to provide an official answer.


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