[vorbis] Re: ogg vorbis

[CLI Devpad]

Sure.

However, I don't believe e-mail is an effective tool to make change, since
much of the stuff that gets sent about things like this, either look like
fanatics that won't take no for an answer, or people that demand their
right to something which a company can't guarantee or has no obligation to
provide.  Most of the time, e-mail ends up sounding like a flame fest which
isn't going to convince any company that a cause is worthwhile.  In my
experiences, regular mail has always had a greater impact than electronic
submissions.

You could write a letter via regular mail to:

Kevin Yeung
Product Marketing Manager
Creative Labs, Inc.
1901 McCarthy Blvd.
Milpitas, CA 95035

It may be it isn't supported for reasons far beyond any one person's
control.
For example:
Let's say that Creative was in the process of making a deal with Microsoft
to promote WMA, and Microsoft didn't want Ogg Vorbis to be supported on the
same player as WMA.  Whether that's right or wrong, ethical or not, it
would clearly be in Creative's strategic interests to maintain that
partnership and agree, since Ogg Vorbis support just doesn't carry the same
weight as an announcement of a teaming with Microsoft.  This is totally
hypothetical mind you, but you should be aware that considerations like
this are made all the time, and that Ogg Vorbis been raised and suggested
to all appropriate parties within Creative.  I have no idea why it isn't
supported, but I am assured that there are reasons for any file format
support that gets added (or not) to the Nomad.

With all that in mind I hope that clears things up a bit and I wish you the
best in your efforts.

Cheers,
Kurt

Jack Moffitt <jack at icecast.org> on 06/21/2001 02:07:25 PM
To:   CLI Devpad <devpad at creativelabs.com>
cc:   vorbis at xiph.org

Subject:  Re: ogg vorbis

That's great to hear.  Is there anyone I can talk to about it who is
more involved with the decision making process?

It would honestly take little effort I think, and I know that lots of
useres are requesting it (I get 5-10 emails about it a week at least).

Probably the biggest request from our users, is for Ogg Vorbis support
in the Nomad line of products.  I'm willing to do whatever I can to
help.

Thanks,
jack.

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 02:17:21PM -0700, CLI Devpad wrote:
>
> Jack,
>
> Thank you for your e-mail.
> I'd also love to see the Ogg Vorbis format supported in Nomad devices.
> Decisions to support various file formats are made at high levels, and
for
> any number of reasons including technological, monetary and strategic.
It
> has been submitted and those who decide these things have all of the
> information.
> Unfortunately, I don't have a when or if for you on this yet.  If Ogg
> Vorbis gets supported on the devices, it will appear on nomadworld.com
> first.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Kurt Heiden
> Creative Labs, Inc.
> Developer Relations Manager
> Digital Entertainment
>
>
>
>
>
> Jack Moffitt <jack at icecast.org> on 06/20/2001 08:52:17 AM
> To:   devpad at creative.com
> cc:
>
> Subject:  ogg vorbis
>
>
> I'd like to help get Ogg Vorbis into the Nomad line of products.  How do
> I go about this, and who is the best person to talk to about this?
>
> jack.
> --
> Jack Moffitt
> Executive Director
> Xiph.org Foundation
>
>
>
>

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