[vorbis] A killer clip

[Benjamin Flanders]

I don't know much about why the sample sounds so bad
when encoded but I encoded it with lame vbr and ogg
and I want to say is lame sounds good,  but this isn't
what we want is it?  Lame doesn't have any of the
annoying high pitch sound in it, none, this isn't true
to the original sound clip.
Ogg, though introduces some very bad artifacts,
actually does encode the sound.  So my question is, if
you put in a low pass filter, do attenuation, etc...
will this cut out the sound like lame (not wanted) or
just stop the artifacts from being produced (perfect
world)?

I bow to Ogg's almighty presence
ben

--- Monty <xiphmont at xiph.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 01:05:38AM +1200, Lance
> Paine wrote:
> > Bizarre, blade seems to manage it ok regardless of
> bitrate. Lame introduced
> > odd artifacts at high rates.
> 
> Simple attenuation is enough to eliminate the
> clipping.  -2dB is enough.
> 
> > Using dbPoweramps vorbis plugin, high bitrates
> introduce a strange
> > wishy-watery sound (and cut off the last tone in
> the sequence)
> 
> It may just be aborting encode/playback ealry.  i
> know early decoder
> examples had this problem.
> 
> Monty
> 
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