[vorbis] Announce: VCE v0.1.2

[Beni Cherniavsky]

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, [iso-8859-2] Jernej Simonèiè wrote:

> ----- Izvorno sporoèilo -----
> Od: David K. Gasaway <dgasaway at bigvalley.net>
> Za: <vorbis at xiph.org>
> Poslano: 16. februar 2001 6:15
> Zadeva: Re: [vorbis] Announce: VCE v0.1.2
> 
> | It might work okay in Winamp if you turn off the bitmap font in the
> | display options.  Do the same special characters display properly
> | when placed in an ID3 tag inside an MP3 (with the above option
> | off)?
> 
> I was looking at the playlist (which uses default font) anyway. Special
> characters in ID3 show correctly there (and in main window, too, if I
> disable bitmap font). However, it seems, that in_vorbis plugin doesn't
> process the text, and shows it just like it's written in file (¹ for example
> becomes Å·).
> 

I checked it with a mix of English, Hebrew and Russian characters - all in
the same comment.  VCE handles it correctly (shows it, and the .ogg file
contains multibyte sequences).

ID3, both v1 and v2, seem to store characters as is (I looked at the .mp3
file) - assuming default charset => if you move the file to a computer
with another charset, you lose :-(.  Winamp just shows 8-bit data in the
charset of the font you use in the playlist/main window).  This means that
winamp will never be able to show a mix of russian and hebrew (or anything
else that doesn't fit into one 8-bit codepage).

The in-vorbis.dll plugin does nothing to the data - it just passes it to
winamp, which shows the multibyte data as if it was 8-bit data.  It should
do a down-translation to the default charset probably, otherwise one can't
use international characters in titles (I'll currently start commenting my
vorbis files with `HTITLE=...' instead of `TITLE=...' as a workaround, so
that the plugin won't see it and will show the filename ;-).  BTW, I've
just found "Added simplistic UTF-8 decoding to playlist loader" in winamp
3 beta report, so fixing the current plugin can be skipped.

* * *

BTW, the list of suggested tags in VCE that appear in the drop-down box
differs from the list at `v-comment.html' (I remember `ENCODED BY' - there
might be more).  Is this intentional?  If so, maybe it's reasonable to add
it to v-comment.html?  For windows end-users of vorbis, the list in VCE
will be de-facto more autoritative than the offical doc ;-).


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Beni Cherniavsky <cben at crosswinds.net>
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