[vorbis] (Classical) Request for Standardization of expanded TAGS

Jon Shiring slothy at slothy.com
Thu Dec 13 12:51:19 PST 2001



My apologies for pinning you with things you don't endorse, that was poor 
of me.  You make good points, but I think RELEASEDATE would logically be 
the date it was first released.  Or we could make some policy decision that 
if more than one album is listed, the RELEASEDATE and TRACK apply to the 
first album.  We can make a policy that allows for both.

I'm in total agreement about the ENSEMBLE issue, and I don't see how 
renaming ARTIST to PERFORMER accomplishes anything, since end-users will 
still see whatever the winamp/xmms/etc GUIs label them as.  I fear that the 
lack of people willing to do the marathon yelling matches with Jonathan and 
deal with his abuse is causing him to think people agree with his proposal.

On the stupidity of users, one wonders how so many people manage to screw 
up the mp3 tags, since most rippers do insert the data, but people still 
manage to do it :)

Jon

Craig Dickson wrote:

> I'm not arguing in favor of forcing ALBUM to be a singleton; I'm just
> arguing against encouraging people to put multiple ALBUM tags in. Of
> course, a more fundamental objection is that other album-related tags
> (track number, release date, record label) would be utterly useless with
> multiple ALBUM tags, because you can't tell which TRACK or RELEASEDATE
> tag goes with which ALBUM tag, since there's no structural relationship
> between tags.
> 
> How likely is that, though, when the album is right in front of them?
> (Assuming that people tag their files immediately after ripping, or even
> as part of the rippig process if their tools allow that.) Sure, there
> will be a few people so stupid that they can't get it right even then,
> but that's surely a smaller minority than the people who can't tell the
> difference between two slightly different mixes of a song (who may not
> be a minority at all, he said, cynically).

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