[vorbis] PROPOSAL: Sub-Tagging

MARK JAMES HETHERINGTON mark.hetherington at studentmail.newcastle.edu.au
Sun Dec 9 15:25:15 PST 2001



Having now been able to read your spec I have two thoughts.

Please DO NOT get rid of the artist tag. You say "it should be an
extreme nuicance(sp?) or annoyance to use it". I think that use of it
could be discouraged, but that it must remain, just to make things easy.
Think of "Artist" as representing all the people behind a particular
recording. With a CD Name in the CD/album tag, one can find all this
information, especially if one does have the original CD.

I think the standard should be backward compatible in this respect, and
allow people to continue tagging in the "quasi-standard" artist/title
way they already have.

Secondly, Your shell script is a great example of how your system can
work. The only thing is, that this sort of thing can work with
everything stuffed in the track tag like "blah composed by XXXX written
by XXXX". Stuffing that much into the track is um, not so nice/elegant.
  Personally I generally put remixs into the track "Body Moving (Funker
Vogt Mix)" but only because the remix is a different track, a new work
in it's own right. I include details of the track "Live from Big Day Out
'01, Boiler Room stage" in the comments......

I think I can use this new standard. I'll probably enjoy using it, but
it must be backward compatible to Artist/Title/Album/year/comment
tagging. This type of tagging has to exist under the standard, mainly
because I have spent a lot of time configuring my ripping and tagging
programs to name my files elegantly, and tag them in the current
"framework".

Mark Hetherington




id3 was quickly thrown together for POP songs.  It's limitations don't
mean the entire concept was flawed.  I posted a challenge to the list in
my last email.  I'm waiting for someone to meet it.

Jonathan

On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 02:57:17PM +0100, Patrick Mauritz wrote:
>> No, no. This is uselessly complcated. What's wrong with having a number of 
>> standard optional specific tags, and using only those needed?

>quite simple - you can't specify all the tags one may use sometimes.
>id3 showed it clearly: a set of optional tags was designed and it is not
>good enough for certain cases...

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