[vorbis] requested new features ?
Marshall Eubanks
tme at 21rst-century.com
Sun Oct 8 07:53:31 PDT 2000
David Mitchell wrote:
>
> Matt and Karin Lawson wrote:
> >
> > The website is:
> > http://www.mp3licensing.com
> >
> > Basically the deal is that you can stream mp3s for free until the end of the
> > year but after that, they start charging a royalty with a MINIMUM annual
> > payment of $15,000. If you also want to sell downloads, it's 1% of your
> > sales with another annual minimum fee of $15,000.
> >
> > Now remember these fees are only for the use of the mp3 technology
> > itself, it doesn't include the myriad of royalties that are due to the various
> > record companies, publishers, performing rights organizations, etc..
> >
> > Realize that this also means that if you want to sell and stream YOUR
> > OWN MUSIC that you personally wrote, performed, and recorded
> > in your house, that adds up to $30,000 per year. You see how
> > absurd this is?
>
> I'm curious what gives them the authority to license MP3
> downloads? If I am selling .mp3 files, how would that be affected
> by patents on audio encoding and decoding techniques? This may be
> a stupid question, but an .mp3 file is not an encoder. And a .mp3
> file is not a decoder. So why do their patents apply at all?
>
> As an analogy, lets say I patent a new method for binding books.
> It works great, saves the publishers a ton of money, and they all
> license it. Great. I'm making money. My patent is being licensed.
> But, my lawyers tell me I have a problem. Bookstores are selling
> books made with my patented binding without a license! Do I have
> any right to demand that they pay me royalties? If so, can I also
> demand royalties from the truckers who ship the books? Can I
> demand royalties from the reviewers who review the books? Can I
> demand royalties from the trashmen who carry away the books after
> they are read? Can I demand royalties from the people who read
> the books? How far does this nonsense go?
>
> Back to MP3's. As long as I am using a properly licensed encoder,
> what say does Thompson have about what I do with that encoder? It
> seems to me that their lawyers are making up "rights" out of thin
> air and trying to license them. Oh well, this is probably a good
> thing for Vorbis. After all, the more heavy handed and demanding
> Thompson and Frh are, the better the competition looks.
>
> -David Mitchell
>
They basically claim that if you want to USE an
encoder with their technology, you have to follow their
rules. It is probable (not certain - that would take court cases)
that you cannot make MP3's without their technology, therefore
they can claim a license right to payments.
I personally think that they are being stupid; it would not
be the first time, though.
Regards
Marshall Eubanks
T.M. Eubanks
Multicast Technologies, Inc.
10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 410
Fairfax, Virginia 22030
Phone : 703-293-9624
Fax : 703-293-9609
e-mail : tme at on-the-i.com
http://www.on-the-i.com http://www.buzzwaves.com
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