[vorbis] new MS codecs

[JD Conley]

Oh yeah, they have some samples on their site.  Interestingly enough, they
don't compare any of their sounds to MP3 or OGG, only Real, which we all
know is inferior in quality...  Although the original WAV does give you a
good idea as to the degredation in quality.

Check it out (the url is probably wrapped):
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/en/compare/quality.asp

-----Original Message-----
From: Freya [mailto:freya128 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 10:15 AM
To: vorbis at xiph.org
Subject: Re: [vorbis] new MS codecs

Heres the bit I missed:

With the new codec released Tuesday, Microsoft says
users can store about three times more music than MP3
on portable devices. Microsoft also unveiled its new
Windows Media Player 8 for Pocket PC devices. 

--- Freya <freya128 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I thought this might be interesting to you, it's an
> extract from the latest streaming media newsletter,
> I
> was intrested to note that MS are claiming cd
> quality
> audio at 48kbps whichi is obviously very low, I
> didn't
> think much of it at first because nobody uses MS
> codecs for audio anyway! However (a bit I missed off
> this quote by the look of it) I then read mention of
> portable audio players and thought hmmm, if you can
> get cd quality audio in a third of the memory,
> people
> might use it for that. I mean imagine if you have
> one
> of those little 16mb winCE things, not a lot of use
> really but then if you had 3 times the space it
> would
> be like 48mb and 32 would be like 96mb and it all
> starts sounding a lot more useful.
> 
> Anyway I just thought it was interesting, probably
> it
> sounds horrible :)
> 
> love
> 
> Freya
> 
> "During his keynote, Ballmer talked about the next
> operating system, codenamed "Whistler", which
> features
> advanced audio and video functions. He also unveiled
> new Windows Media 8 audio and video codecs with
> significant quality improvements. Near CD-quality
> audio is now available at 48Kbps, beating
> Microsoft's
> previous 64Kbps rate. For video, "near VHS" is
> available at 250Kbps, while "near DVD" is at
> 500Kbps. 
> 
> The quest for higher quality audio and video is
> growing rapidly. In May, RealNetworks announced
> RealVideo 8, which it claims can show VHS quality
> video at about 300Kbps. More recently, it announced
> RealAudio 8, which provides CD quality audio at
> 64Kbps
> - half the size of MP3. However, Microsoft now has
> the
> upper hand, with its announcement that it will
> support
> CD quality audio at 48Kbps. Windows Media 8 codecs
> are
> backward-compatible with Windows Media Player 7 and
> 6.4." 
> 
> 
> 
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