[Vorbis-dev] ogg ACM codec

Didier Dambrin didid at skynet.be
Tue Jul 19 19:09:03 PDT 2005


btw is there a place explaining in details why an ogg acm codec can't be 
done?




>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 04:49:17PM +0200, Didier Dambrin wrote:
>>>
>>> All I know is that we're currently using that japanese codec made by
>>> 'freddie fish'. The decoding works perfectly for us, it's the encoding 
>>> that
>>> sometimes crashes, and doesn't work in some editors.
>>
>> Well, we basically said "You can't actually make a fully working Ogg
>> Vorbis ACM codec" and you said "But were're using one, it's great it
>> just doesn't always work".  So we're in full agreement.
>>
>> (The Japanese one is a hack and isn't fully compliant.  So no, it
>> won't always work).
>
>
> i'm fine with a CBR one that wouldn't sometimes crash when encoding
>
> I'm also fine with a codec working in 1-pass (as opposed to buffered) 
> decoding, if that's where the problem is(?)
>
>
> In fact, I'm fine with anything non-compliant as long as it can compress 
> as well as ogg (& mp3 isn't an option). I'm only looking for a great 
> compression scheme that doesn't fuck up audio data like mp3 does so much.
>
>
>
>>> Problem is that I want to keep working with wav files: they're
>>> standard, and we use a lot of the info they may contain. While I
>>> know that you could store anything you want in an ogg file, it'd
>>> still lack of support from audio editors. That's the problem with a
>>> new format: it's new.
>>
>> Ogg isn't that new; what editor are you using that still doesn't
>> support Ogg?  Most do these days.
>>
>
> but which editor will store these:
>
> -cue points (+type +length +names +assigned keys)
> -full wav-compliant info text
> -tempo & beat info
> -loop points & other sampler-specific info (root note, etc) (and yes, 
> ogged stuff usually keeps looping well, although sometimes not, vs never 
> with mp3)
>
> in ogg files?
>
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