[vorbis-dev] audio analysis tool?
Erik Stenborg
d99papa at dtek.chalmers.se
Wed Nov 6 10:44:15 PST 2002
I read about a tool from Fraunhofer here:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=3382&hl=inverse+decoder&s=
I don't know if they have a working program or if it is just still in
research stage.
Hope that helps.
/Erik
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Eric Seppanen wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 02:13:39AM +0100, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > Eric Seppanen wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm curious, does anyone know of a way to analyze a wave file to determine
> > > the quantity of information in it? For example, given a particular .wav
> > > file, how can I find out if it's an original or was encoded to something
> > > lossy and back?
> >
> > Just look at a spectrogram. Big empty regions at the high frequencies
> > ==> lossy. Lots of other features, too (it's not very hard to see which
> > codec you're looking at).
>
> That's helpful, but I guess I was imagining that there might be some way
> of quantifying how much data is there, for instance having a tool that
> could look at an audio input and notice that it never seems to have more
> than roughly 128kbps of information in it.
>
> Since vorbis has quality settings, I figured it might be able to quantify
> how much signal (not signal magnitude, but quantity of frequency data) is
> coming in.
>
> The other thing that occurs to me is that some codecs may "fake"
> high-frequency data when decoding just to fool the uneducated listener.
> While a sharp person could probably spot this in a spectrogram, I wonder
> if it would be possible for a tool to detect "faked" data and discard it
> when measuring the quantity of "useful" data.
>
> I'm wondering how difficult it would be to create such a tool using the
> vorbis encoder as a starting point.
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