[vorbis-dev] Re: [vorbis] Request for Standardization: classical music TAGS

[Jonathan Walther]

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I disagree with having a mini-display-format language.  The purpose
of the tags is to store information.  Its up to the client how it
wants to display the information.  In winamp/xmms for instance,
they often try to display everything on one line.  Other players
have a nicely formatted multi-line display of the relevant information.

I was browsing Amazon today, and I found something interesting:  in
their classical music section, they have found it necessary to add
exactly the tags I was suggesting before; to wit, COMPOSER, CONDUCTOR,
PERFORMER, ENSEMBLE.  It must be kismet...

I think the ARTIST tag is useless.  Someone might quibble, "what about
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band?".  I would say, since they
are treated as a single item, stick "Bruce Springsteen and the E Street
Band" in the ENSEMBLE tag.  But since Bruce is the one being hilighted,
you could just put "Bruce Springsteen" in the PERFORMER tag.

Now that I think about it, the ARTIST tag works pretty good for pop
music.  Maybe we could define the ARTIST tag to be: the name of whoever
is *primarily* associated with the song/track/piece.  Then it doesn't
matter if a person is the composer, performer, whatever, you just stick
'em there.  And classical music encoders could ignore the tag.

Jonathan

On Sat, 6 Oct 2001, Trick wrote:
> Why not do as one here suggested (don't remember who atm, sorry),
> introduce a _standard_ tag for display format of the tags ? You could
> even go further, and make some specific format tags for the different
> standard tags, which, if present, determine how to compose that tag:
>
> ALBUM=S&M
> ARTIST=Metallica
> ENSEMBLE=San Francisco Symphony Orchestra
> CONDUCTOR=Michael Kamen
> TITLE=Wherever I May Roam
> ARTISTFORMAT=$ARTIST with $ENSEMBLE ($CONDUCTOR)
> TITLEFORMAT=$TITLE
>
> ... and maybe even a default format for displaying:
>
> DISPLAYFORMAT=$ARTISTFORMAT - $TITLEFORMAT
>
> Btw, it would be nice if variables were possible in all tags..
> Would beat all other formats even further into the dust =)

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