[vorbis-dev] constant low-bitrate for streaming test

Kevin Marks kmarks at apple.com
Thu Mar 15 11:26:16 PST 2001



At 10:12 am +0100 15/3/01, Smörk wrote:
>Vorbis sounds better at low bitrates than I thought (not
>as good as realaudio, but maybe one day. Generally it's hard to say
>what codec is better at low bitrates. Some people say the best is WMA,
>but I always hear the steadily flowing cymbals. Sometimes it's a matter
>of taste).

  I'd say QDesign2 is the one to beat in the 24 kbps or so space, 
though it depends on taste. The madonnamusic.com has the whole album 
encoded in QT at that bitrate (You'll need to set your QT prefs to 
28.8 to get the low bitrate version, and it sounds pretty good to my 
non-professional ears).

QDesign's ability to target a bitrate independent of samplerate can 
give amazing resultss - with the right content I have heard clear 44 
kHz stereo through 24 kbit/sec, but you often need to tune the 
encoding using the Pro version, to avoid the flanging and fairy bells 
artefacts when pushing it that hard.

In fact my theory is that codecs depend on taste in music of the 
authors - QDesign has most trouble with hard rock, but is great at 
classical; MP3 was deigned to encode Suzanne Vega's 'Tom's Diner' 
(the original a capella, not the remix with drums).

http://essays.chrisdevers.org/Ecompany.com_--_Suzanne_Vega_helped_make_the_MP3_format.html

So what is Monty's taste in music?

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