[vorbis-dev] constant low-bitrate for streaming test
Kevin Marks
kmarks at apple.com
Thu Mar 15 11:26:16 PST 2001
At 10:12 am +0100 15/3/01, Smörk wrote:
>Vorbis sounds better at low bitrates than I thought (not
>as good as realaudio, but maybe one day. Generally it's hard to say
>what codec is better at low bitrates. Some people say the best is WMA,
>but I always hear the steadily flowing cymbals. Sometimes it's a matter
>of taste).
I'd say QDesign2 is the one to beat in the 24 kbps or so space,
though it depends on taste. The madonnamusic.com has the whole album
encoded in QT at that bitrate (You'll need to set your QT prefs to
28.8 to get the low bitrate version, and it sounds pretty good to my
non-professional ears).
QDesign's ability to target a bitrate independent of samplerate can
give amazing resultss - with the right content I have heard clear 44
kHz stereo through 24 kbit/sec, but you often need to tune the
encoding using the Pro version, to avoid the flanging and fairy bells
artefacts when pushing it that hard.
In fact my theory is that codecs depend on taste in music of the
authors - QDesign has most trouble with hard rock, but is great at
classical; MP3 was deigned to encode Suzanne Vega's 'Tom's Diner'
(the original a capella, not the remix with drums).
http://essays.chrisdevers.org/Ecompany.com_--_Suzanne_Vega_helped_make_the_MP3_format.html
So what is Monty's taste in music?
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