[vorbis-dev] Idea for gapless tracks

[Chun-Yu]

Yes, but we aren't talking about MP3s.  MP+ is based on MP2, and it's very
different from MP3.  Go to http://www.mpegplus.net/ for more information.

Chun-Yu

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vorbis-dev at xiph.org [mailto:owner-vorbis-dev at xiph.org]On
> Behalf Of Shawn Pourchot
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 4:37 PM
> To: 'vorbis-dev at xiph.org'
> Subject: RE: [vorbis-dev] Idea for gapless tracks
>
>
> Actually you can get the silence removed on MP3's if you encode using VBR
> and use the FH VBRI table in the MP3 stream.
>
> This might be what the author was implying.  The silence is still in the
> file but the header tells the application not to load it.  As far
> as I know
> only Sonic Foundry Siren 2.0 encodes and takes advantage of this
> information.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chun-Yu [mailto:cshei at indiana.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:54 PM
> To: vorbis-dev at xiph.org
> Subject: Re: [vorbis-dev] Idea for gapless tracks
>
>
> -------------------
> > > > > > We all know that currently Vorbis is the only codec out
> there that
> > > > > > doesn't add any silence to the decoded file, so when you
> decode
> > > > > > your .ogg file the resulting .wav will be exactly the same
> length
> > > > > > as the original one.
> > > >
> > > > i know im new here but...
> > > > mpegplus does that and the author claimed that his was the first
> > >
> > > No it doesn't.  Vorbis and maybe VQF are the only lossy encoders I
> know of
> > > that don't add silence.
> >
> > i dont mean to start an argument but...
> I don't either, but encode any WAV file in Ogg Vorbis and MP+, decode
> them, and check the sizes.  The decoded .ogg file is the same length
> as the original, but the decoded .mp+ isn't.  I tried it with the
> lastest version of the MP+ encoder.
>
> Chun-Yu
>
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