[vorbis-dev] DWIT
Andr Piotrowski
piotrowski.andre at exmail.de
Sun Jan 14 05:52:37 PST 2001
am 14.01.2001 12:49 Uhr schrieb Steve Underwood unter steveu at coppice.org:
> Segher Boessenkool wrote:
>
>> [good piece snipped]
>>
>>> The list is quite long.
>>
>> You forgot the biggie :-)
>> We can't hear phase differences above 2kHz.
>
> Actually I think we both forgot the biggie - "well". We can't detect bass
> direction well. We can't detect mid to high range phase well. In fact, we
> aren't totally unable to detect most of these things, and when our ears latch
> on
> to the defects they tend to focus on them - at least mine do.
>
> The phase thing is kind of interesting. If you have ever worked with a source
> of
> complex data, like radars and some sonars do, you will know the
> aliasing band is the same as the sampling rate, instead of half it. The whole
> world of signalling processing looks interestingly different, and seems quite
> alien to those who have never tried it. Fun stuff.
>
>>> Current compressors exploit a number of limitations, but none is yet clever
>>> enough to exploit them all. That leaves lots of room for fun research!
>>
>> The current codecs don't exploit the things they do to full
>> extent, either.
>>
>> A nice paper to read:
>>
>> "Ein psychophysiologisches Gehoermodell zur Nachbildung von
>> Wahrnehmungsschwellen fuer die Audiocodierung"
>>
>> It's the dissertation of Frank Baumgarte.
>
> Can you point to an English or Chinese translation of that? I'm Germanically
> challenged.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>
>
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Hi Steve, have a look at
www.tnt.uni-hannover.de/project/coding/audio/perception/publications.html
for some of Frank Baumgartes documents published in English language.
Regards,
André
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