[vorbis-dev] Ogg VEO Codec, video in an Ogg stream

[Sean Wieland]

Jelle Foks wrote:
> 
> Sean Wieland wrote:
> >
> > What is the feasibility of developing this wavelet-based video codec
> > concurrently with the Vorbis audio codec so that they can be multiplexed
> > into an Ogg stream as an alternative to the restrictive MPEG-4?
> >
> > If there were a few more full-time developers, could this be done before
> > 2001?
> 
> I can tell you what I think.
> 
> Before 2001, that would be only 4 months. Something may be useable then,
> but I doubt it will pose any competition to MPEG-4. When you mean
> 'before 2001 is over', then it's entirely different.

No, I meant in 4 months.

> Well, I counted 7 people in this thread already, plus yourself. So at
> least there is an interest. I think MPEG-4 itself is currently in a
> state where you _can_ make a codec implementation of it, but due to the
> complexity of things such as object recognition and classification,
> developing a codec that gets the best compression possible out of MPEG-4
> will probably take years if it will ever be. Hence, that 'competition'
> of ogg video is still in it's infancy itself.

Well, I never understood the point of all of that extra object crap they
threw in the MPEG-4 standard.  I just want what MPEG-1/2 provide for
video but with higher quality and at lower bitrates due to better
algorithms.  BUT, I also don't want to deal with the restrictions patent
owners place on the use of MPEG-4, which is why I was wondering if/when
this Ogg/Tarkin video codec could reach beta with quality at least 10x
better than MPEG-2.

-Sean


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