1) GIF is patented standard. What about replacing *.gifs with *.pngs ??? 2) What about compressing vorbis_nighty_cvs.tar by bzip2 tgz is 585 kB tar.bz2 is 475 kB 19 % download savings --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/